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Farmers Outraged at Crafting Goods Price Changes!

Posted on October 2, 2010 2:39 pm by FarmVille Freak FarmGoddess

FarmVille Increases Crafting Goods Tax

Did Zynga unintentionally kill Crafting?

Farmers are outraged at recent changes made to Crafting Goods. The new FarmVille tax takes 50% of the proceeds from Crafting Goods you sell. The previous number was only 10% thus leaving you with 90% of the profit from sold Goods.

While Zynga has been mum on the issue and vague at the least, today a FarmVille forum moderator called the changes “intentional”. This decision has left lots of farmers upset with the new tax which means less coins and less fuel for everyone.

“Apparently this change is not a bug, so I’m going to move this over to the Feedback forum now. Any discussion/feedback about this change should be addressed over here now, please. Thanks for understanding.” – FarmVille Forum Moderator PlainD

The main issues of concern include:

  • There is a dramatic decrease in the return (Coins) of Goods produced.
  • If there is less profit to be made producing Goods, farmers may stop producing.
  • The amount of Fuel for trading Goods also seems to have decreased.
  • If there are less Goods being produced, there will be less Goods to buy (and less Coin available Fuel).

How do you feel about the changes made to Crafting? Do you think this new tax is fair? Will you continue to make Crafting Goods?

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  1. john Says:

    Unbelievable!!!!!! Zynga did it again…..
    give everyone 100fv , not only to the cheaters (for the nursery barns).

  2. paul Says:

    if zynga is doing this i may not play any more. they are doing some weird and crazy things. if they are taking that much coin they should invest those coins into something else that we can use like farmville cash. or even some other cool stuff we can use. either i won’t play any more or limit my time playing farmville.

  3. Maria Says:

    I’m not quitting my farm, but I will give less importance to it. I have stopped producing goods and I think I will leave it that way. I also refuse to upgrade my bakery. This is the umpteenth time Zynga does something upsetting to its players. (I also did not receive my red horse when I won it on the Zlotto, although it appears as claimed! Grrrrr…..)

  4. Genna Says:

    I thought we were going to get things other than fuel. I have enough of that,… I thought other things were going to be traded for the items we buy/produce. Get on with it already!! And why reduce our coins?? The coins we have mean nothing to them……what is the purpose of that?

  5. Martin Says:

    I was happy with the change in the way Crafting Cottages work as I lost 15FV in the old system with accidentally finishing goods. The reduction in coin return doesn’t bother me that much, although it’s a shame Zynga did it. I’m more bothered by the lower return in fuel for trading in goods. I do understand it somewhat as over time we’ll all have level 100+ goods which will return large amounts of fuel thus filling up gasoline supplies easily.
    The big issue is the poor planning on Zynga’s part that didn’t foresee that giving this much gasoline in the first place would result in large supplies of gasoline for many. This probably ate in to their profits of people buying gasoline. Reducing benefits is a bad move as it gives no benefit to the users and only serves to anger them. I think Zynga already has plenty of reasons for users to be angry with the poor performance of the game and the frequent bugs interfering with game play.

  6. Brian Says:

    Such changes seem fair and reasonable. Coin is already in more-than-plentiful supply from regular farming. I’ve seen my fuel stores increase from less than 100 tanks to well over 1000 tanks just since crafting began.

    As long as they don’t decrease the amount of bushels that harvesting gives off, I’ll be happy.

  7. Yaniv Sims Says:

    OK ! I CAN’T DO IT LIKE THIS !!!

    THEY REALLY HIT MY NERVES WITH THAT ONE !!! GOD HOW UPSETTING THIS IS !

    1. how CAN I BUY from all the people that buy from me if the money isn’t enough to buy from them back ?

    2. how IS IT POSSIBLE to buy all the stuff the zynga put out from time to time
    which are getting more expensive from release to release ? the profit from the crops aren’t enough !

    3. WHAT ON EARTH KILLED THEM to let the players enjoy it ? if it’s so much money let them drop the cost price too

    4. Zynga showing us YET AGAIN that it doesn’t give a RATS about the players which it owes it’s success – so i think of doing something better with my time –

    NO MORE FOR ME THANK YOU !!!

    we saw how the number of players dropped from 85 Million to 59 Million in the last year …. perhaps if they will loose another 26 Million players they will re think their entire altitude!!

  8. Hoerejong Says:

    Actually it aint that a bad move

    Less fuel means that more poeple will buy goods.
    And more goods that get sold means more income.

  9. Lizzie Says:

    This is so petty and thus so typical of Zynga – imposing a tax on fake money. People complain about too many coins and nothing to spend them on. Get a clue, Zynga: design some permanent stuff for the higher level farmers to buy with coins like Farm Town does. I honestly am starting to think that “Zynga” is actually a front for a study of human behavior, to see how much crap people will take before they can break their addiction to something. As for me, I’ll only craft when the inventory runs low, and that just to support buying fuel. I used to be a daily player, now it’s weekend only (and that just to work on masteries, since all the ones I have left are short crops). And no, they don’t care about their loyal players; why should they? For everyone who rants and raves and threatens to quit, there are more new ones, and a lot of people really are addicted to this game. I oughta know; I used to be one of ‘em!

  10. Cindy Huxley Says:

    BREAKING NEWS – IT’S A GAME !!!

    John – people with more than one nursery barn were not cheating as the barn was available to buy for coin in the market – and could be upgraded in the same way as the first barn.
    It was a Zynga glitch, they have corrected it and compensated people who were caught by it.

    Yaniv – I repeat it’s a game – chill. Play if you enjoy it – don’t play if you don’t.

    Finally –

    It is a GAME.

  11. Michael Says:

    Cindy: Yes it’s a game however Zynga and that idiot Mark Pincus need to realize that we made him what he is today by playing these games. Once he loses millions of more customers he may realize that he blew it. Regarding the nursery barns whether it be a glitch or no it sure as hell took them long enough to fix it. I seriously doubt it was a glitch and just another way for the brass to sponge more money out of customers.

  12. Nesha1225 Says:

    This is bs and I am tired of all of the pop ups when I am planting my seeds.

  13. Mouflon Sheep Says:

    not worth it any more

  14. Truth Says:

    I dont care about this but what the guy from the first comment says

    “give everyone 100fv , not only to the cheaters (for the nursery barns).”

    that’s how i feel too, some of my “neighbors” had a dozen nursery barns – and now they even get a reward for cheating ? that’s f… up

  15. emberfae39 Says:

    I stopped using the crafting awhile ago. It’s just not worth it.

  16. Kathleen Says:

    I wrote to Zynga about this and if this intentional, they did give me 500,000 in coins and 50 FV to replace what I lost.

    I sure do hope that this is NOT intentional, and is a bug.

    here is the email that I received:

    Hello Kathleen, Thanks for contacting Zynga Customer Support. Kathleen, I am truly sorry to hear that you are having these issues with your Farm. I know how frustrating this can be. This is a issues that our Game Developers are currently working on . Many other users have reported this issue to us. I went ahead and put 500,000 Coins into your account to make up for the lost Coins. I have also put 50 Farm Cash into your account, to go and have fun on me. Thank you so much for being part of the FarmVille Family! Happy Farming! Kind regards, Lindsay B. Zynga Customer Support

  17. Lenore Says:

    Hey John when I purchased my 2nd nursery it not say limit one, You should have bought one when it was not limited. The ones that had more than 2 are the ones you should be mad at.

  18. Shannon Says:

    Hey John I had two nursery barns , I bought my barn in the market and you could have too. So explain to me how I am a cheater please.

  19. Scott Says:

    I agree with John everyone should get the 100 FV cash.

  20. Cathy Says:

    I love it that Plain D (Moderator) said” since this isn’t a bug I’m moving this to the correct forum section”…since we are going to screw you for real you can now talk about it….typical…

  21. Frogger Says:

    @John. So, does that mean because Zynga messed up and let us buy two nursery barns that we are cheaters? I had two of them because Zynga had it in the Market that I could buy another one. I’m really confused how that makes someone a cheater.

    I’m not sure about the coins for what you sell in crafts, I have looked at mine and when it says I have coins from selling goods, my coins never go up, as in, the amount it says I earned is never added to my coins. Either that or it adds them before I open the sales report but I don’t think so.

  22. stacy Says:

    Im tired of all the bitching people do about the GAME. You all sit here and threaten to leave or cut down your play time. I bet not one single person will actually do that. Its a ****ing game!!! If you like it, play it. If you dont, stop playing and shut the hell up!!!! You sound like a bunch of ****ing union workers!!!!

  23. Marcy Says:

    They increased the taxes because people were getting by on the fuel from goods and not having to buy fuel with real money which decreases Zynga’s profits!

  24. SusieQues Says:

    There should be NO taxes AT ALL!!! What govt are they representing to take taxes??? USA, ENGLAND,ITALY or GREECE???? You need a gov’t to have tax!!! Not Buying no goods from NO ONE and I dont want them to buy from ME..I will still do recipes just for the XP’s…we should have an option to close the store.. I have neighbors that are SOOO upset they sold there crafting stores!!

  25. Fay Says:

    I don’t care about this chance cause i didn’t even know i earn coins when someone buys my goods. I get enough coins from harvesting my crops and its much funnier if we all have to spend hard work to buy things with our coins. So ..

    RELAX!!!!

    And about the thing with the Nursery Barns and the 100 Farmcash:
    Be honest: You are just angry cause you didn’t get 100 Farmcash. It was glitch and the fault of Zynga. Most of the players didn’t even know that it was a glitch they thought this one of the new updates. And Zynga only gives 100 Farmcash for the second Nursery barn, BECAUSE THEY ALLOWED 2 NURSERIES!
    So …

    RELAX!!!!

  26. Gloria McCown Says:

    I don’t see how cutting our profits can result in us buying more goods – if we don’t make money how can we buy anything ?????????????????? This is stupid and i KNOW IT’S ONLY A GAME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  27. Kelly Sweeney Says:

    If there comes a time when I can’t get enough free (for coins) fuel to play without buying it for cash, I will quit and devote my time to Farm Town, where fuel is always free. I don’t earn enough coins from my neighbors’ purchases to miss that “money” anyway. But the fuel…well, no “free” fuel equals no more playing the game for me. I refuse to buy fuel with cash when other farm games make if giftable. And there are plenty of other farm games out there. Games that don’t jack up the prices of LE cows from 16 to 22 within one year’s time (horses from 18 to 26). So much for inflation not being a problem. No, I’m in the crafting for the fuel, and when that goes, I go. And when I go, I won’t be coming back. Is it any wonder 23 million people have quit FarmVille since March?

  28. Jack Says:

    “I honestly am starting to think that “Zynga” is actually a front for a study of human behavior, to see how much crap people will take before they can break their addiction to something.”

    Did you know that Zynga deletes postings immediately (or people do it for Zynga) in the official Zynga forum who complain too much about Zynga or the moderators? I was shocked because we live in a free country and everybody has got the right to say his/her opinion. I won´t post there any longer.

  29. Crystal Says:

    I didn’t cheat.. I had a second nursery barn it was fully upgraded.. and they took .. I got the 100 FV $$.. if you had more than 2 you didn’t get any extra just the flat 100fv$$

  30. margie Says:

    sounds like they think they are the government.

  31. rekanto Says:

    Zynga´s farmville developers should be fired.

    Its like one step forward and then 2 steps backwards.

    Stoped making goods and buying.

    Buying fuel doesnt give me xp.

    SHAME ON YOU ZYNGA

  32. Linda Smith Says:

    50% Seriously? used to buy 100,000 coins in goods a day – no more! don’t need the fuel -only bought to help out neighbors and the crafting thing was fun. I guess the US government has taken over FarmVille – lol

  33. Jackie Says:

    Who cares if they take more coins? The goods are totally free to make, what does it really matter?

    I think 25% would be more reasonable, but if its 50% thats fine. I dont need the coins that badly, and i can always just bake more stuff. Oh well, i will still play everyday

  34. John Says:

    Gotta love those cry babies that are still wetting their pants and sucking their thumbs…. the nursery was a Zynga glitch, not a player generated glitch. ynga allowed for 2 nurseries to keep and allowed even further for more than 2 but you did that at your own risk. Read the facts before you call people cheaters for not cheating. I think it’s just that you are jealous that you did not read the article months ago and get free 100fc for Zynga changing their minds.

  35. Renee Says:

    i still dont get ANY of the money from crafting or the points i will now stop

  36. reen stuart Says:

    i complained about that yesterday , was told it was a bug and would be fixed as soon as possible, returned coins i got robbed on

  37. Ashley Says:

    I’m glad that there are some of us who understand that this is a game. I did get the 100FV cash. I didn’t cheat. My nursery barn was full and it wouldn’t let me expand at the time so I bought another one. How does that make me a cheater?

  38. margie Says:

    @Jack You have freedom of speech in the US to say what you will about the government. You do not have free speech to say anything you want otherwise. Try saying bad things about your employer at work and see what happens. Your free speech is only regarding the government.

  39. Karen Says:

    Cindy….what you say is true …..BUT ……is it “fair” to compensate someone who had 2 Nurseries the same as someone who had 8 Nurseries?? I had 8 (through no fault of my own….I purchased and upgraded and filled each and everyone of them ….and I got 100 FV cash and 40 critters left in my gift box…. Is it really “fair” that someone who had 2 Nurseries got the same reimbursement as I did… ? They lost 5,000 coin for the nursery and got to keep their 40 critters from the 2nd barn, I LOST 5,000 coin X 7 nursery barns and 40 X 7 barn full of critters (280 critters/foals) ….HOW IS THAT FAIR? yES IT IS ONLY A GAME BUT ….i FOLLOWED THE RULES …. look whay it got me….screwed …person with only 2 Nursery Barns made out much better than I did…

  40. Tribbles Says:

    I have over 6k fuel from goods… I don’t need to buy goods for a very, very long time. I’m doing it mostly to help neighbors. My sales of goods ha already dropped dramatically and it is more profitable to plant crops with the space than to craft, but I keep it as I want the mastery stars. That aside, it is going to take months to get to level 100 with my sweet sake. :(

    The new jobs give a bit more purpose to crafting, but it is not really viable… The change in profit will make it impossible for these buildings to be profitable. So the only reason to use them would be for alternate goals or decoration…

    As for the fuel… Fuel used to be hard to come by and had to be managed… Now it is so freely available, it serves no purpose… Personally I didn’t find fuel enjoyable so I don’t mind fuel being devalued to nothing, but I can’t fault the game designers for tryign to make fuel have some value again…

  41. mudder Says:

    I dont really see any point in taxing coins that isn’t real. What is farmville going to do with the coins taxed? I have seen changes done to the game that sometimes just dont make any sense and it seems just add to more problems already prevalent in the game.

    I cant even buy craft goods OR get bushels from players. I have tried directly and at player’s farms but no such luck. I email tech support and tried there suggestions. They do not work and the problems started after they put in new enhancements.

  42. Kimmie Says:

    YOu know i play this game everyday and ever single part of the day i get a chance and i do not have the money to buy farm cash but when i do get extra money i buy them so it think they should stop changing everything so much when they bring stuff out you can not afford it i mean i have lots of coins but 5 fv and it sucks for me especially when i am a player who plays non stop i always have crops growing and now i am crafting then they go and change it for less coins and fuel! also when are we gonna be able to craft and trade in the items for specials stuff ! i am getting really tired of zynga i should stop playing! really untill they make things better and less coins and they7 should have an option to make fv without doing surveys that get you annoyed by the stupid emails and phones calls! i really love farmville but if this doesn’t chage i think i am gonna have to let it go really!

  43. T Says:

    I’m through with it. The pop ups are annoying and shut down my full view every time they occur. You can’t enjoy the themes anymore because so few items are coin. I started this game because I’m a single mom with little $$ to spare. Corporate greed raises it’s head again and ruins things for the very people who helped them get where they are. They should be advised: The economy still isn’t secure enough for them to sit on their laurels and ignore the masses. Oh well.. plenty more apps hoping to make a name for themselves. It may be time to move on to one of them. ;o)

  44. Cubical Farmer Says:

    Meh…crafting is so last month….

  45. Laurie Says:

    Taxes,you have got to be joking right? Zynga flat out lied and pretended they knew nothing of the 50 % issue when I wrote to customer support 3 days ago.Here is a transcript of my exchange with Zynga about this issue:
    Incident Id # 6739373
    09/30/2010 11:26 AM Just wanted to let you know about a problem I have been having since the switch over to the new crafting stalls and building format.I am not receiving the correct amount of coinage for goods sold.Its only giving me about half of what the items are worth and not just one particular item but all items sold.For example I have Level 53 Sake which is sold for 6200 coins.I am now receiving 3100 coins for that product.And say a product is worth 2500 I am now receiving 1250 coins for said item.This is the main way that I make money in the game and a really cool feature so I am losing out on major coinage as I sell between 20 and 50 items per day.Its a huge profit loss. Thanks,Laurie Bates Customer Entry

    09/30/2010 01:41 PM Hello Laurie, Thank you for contacting Zynga Customer Support. This is Danielle and I’ll be assisting you today. We’re terribly sorry that you’re not receiving the correct amount of Coins for your Sold Crafting Goods. We know this is frustrating but please be assured that we’re more than happy to help you. Laurie, if its possible, please provide us a screenshot showing the incorrect amount of Coins for your sold Crafted Goods. We need this information so that we can determine the probable cause of this issue. Please refer to the link below on how to take a screenshot. Answer Title: How do I take a screenshot? Answer Link: http://zynga.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/106 Should you have other questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to send us an email and we’ll be glad to help you. Thank you and have a great day! Kind regards, Danielle M. Zynga Customer Support Response

    09/30/2010 02:40 PM Heres my screenshot and I also wanted you to know that I am not the only one with this problem.In talking with my farmville neighbors they are having this problem as well. — On Thu, 9/30/10, Zynga Customer Support wrote: From: Zynga Customer Support Subject: [Incident: 100930-009938] Reply from Zynga Customer Support To: aerosmithrulx@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, September 30, 2010, 4:41 PM ==================== image File Attachment ==================== Farmville Sales Report.jpg, 291798 bytes, added to incident Customer Entry

    09/30/2010 05:55 PM Danielle,Hoping the screenshot I sent in was sufficient,if not I can try to send a better one.I am not buying anymore goods and hope that my neighbors don’t buy mine until the issue is resolved.Please let me know if theres anything more you need to help speed this process along. Thanks,Laurie — On Thu, 9/30/10, Zynga Customer Support wrote: From: Zynga Customer Support Subject: [Incident: 100930-009938] Reply from Zynga Customer Support To: aerosmithrulx@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, September 30, 2010, 4:41 PM Customer Entry

    10/01/2010 07:38 AM Hello Laurie, Thanks for the response Laurie. We’re terribly sorry that you’re only receiving 50% of the Coins for your sold Crafted Goods. We know this is frustrating but please be assured that we’re more than happy to help you. Laurie, we would like to thank you for bringing this matter to our attention. We have received your screenshot and will use this information to investigate and determine the probable cause of this issue. We would like to request a bit more time from you while we work on a possible solution for this problem. For the meantime, we have proceeded to credit your account half of the sales you were supposed to receive. Based from the screenshot, you were missing approximately $110, 000 Coins. Therefore, we’re crediting you $110,000 Coins in your account as a one time courtesy. Please be informed that your new Coins balance is now $1,604,668, which was $1,494,668 previously. Should you have other questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to send us an email and we’ll be glad to help you. Thank you and have a great day! Kind regards, Danielle M. Zynga Customer Support

  46. dali-farmer Says:

    zynga said we could have a second barn becourse of the glitch and thats why we got 100fv cash

    taking any money off us for goods is not called for so half the coins is just bad they should just stop messing us about and get the glitch with the game freezing when we try to gift any goods in the market

  47. Lee Says:

    First; I did not cheat it took a loooog time to get 4 nursery barns, do the 3 upgrades (150 items each, then collect 40 animals. I had these 4 for 42 levels. So because some programmer screwed up or some stupid arbitrary decision Zynga takes 3 of them off of me for $100 fv. WTF thats 450 items 15,000 coins and 120 animals = $100 fv cash. NOW they change the formula for crafting rewards, again arbitrarly. Then WE should not spend another actual Dollar till this issue is better resolved. I already have 4 friends who quit playing. What good will it be if we don’t have enough friends to be able to do anything game wise? At least 10 other friends went from daily players to 1-2 days week. THANK YOU ZYNGA FOR REALLY SCREWING UP you had a great thing going and (I guess) decided to get greedy

  48. John E Says:

    Zynga is just trying to make the game more like real life in this new tax-and-spend society. Obama voters the lot of them, I say. Next thing you know, Zynga is going to require us to have Health Insurance just to play the game.

    This tax increase is unacceptable. As a result, I have STOPPED buying from all of my neighbors and only buy from those that buy from me. I have also told them that I will only concentrate on getting bushels and crafting and buying is going to be secondary.

    A lot of folks on here saying it is just a game. Sure. It is but I’m spending MY money on it, so I want enjoyment, not frustration, out of it.

    The idiot developers couldn’t even code themselves out of a paper bag and the Crafting User Interface is BROKEN unless you SKIP sharing goods to the feed. Forget about getting bushels from the neighbors from the Cottage as well. Now I have to remember what I need, exit out of the Cottage, go to the Stalls, and get the goods that way.

  49. Gracie Says:

    Okay I dont agree with Zyngas methods and i do believe they try to screw players any chance they get!!! AND i myself have said i am so done stick a fork in me im DONE….then something totally cute comes out and im hooked AGAIN LOL!! BUT instead of *itching do what your gonna do and be done with it. I have spent a good amount of money on this game ( i know stupid ) and i have done my share of complaining but in the long run it is up to the player do ya wanna play or dont ya, but keep in mind all games have thier glitches Zynga just seems to have more than others LOLz :o )

  50. Jack Says:

    (Oh, sorry for mistakes, I was not able to edit my posting… ;-)

  51. Lily Says:

    People, it’s really sad that there are so high taxes in crafting. However, relax. I was very angry, but as it’s only a game and everybody knows this, try to relax, please. Don’t waste your nerves on this. Now I’m taking more hours in RPG games in videogame. They don’t stress my nerves. I just don’t want FV freaks to be nervous.

  52. florie Says:

    This is not fair! FV does not get real money so why do it! I don’t understand what they will gain by this! might lose some farmers…It sounds like alot of people are mad1

    Why not make it easier for us to get our gifts….it would really be nice if all we had to do is click click right down the gift page….Thats a hassel to me! after all that work getting your gifts you can go to your gift box and just click down on all the parts thats how they should make the gift page work for us instead of taking our coins away!

  53. waldina Says:

    WELL I DON’T EVEN KNOW THIS PROBLEM BUT THE ONLY BAD THING FOR ME NOW IS == MI SPACE THE 26**26 IS NOT ENOUGH FOR ME SO PLEASE MAKE 30**30 PLEASE >_< THANK YOU

  54. Judy Says:

    The only problem I am having with the new crafting format is my game freezes when I attempt to share once I receive the third bushel from my neighbor. So I have stopped sharing as much. This disappoints me because I want to share with my neighbors. I doubt they are doing this to make me buy gas. I have 800 tanks and have never spent FV cash for any of it.

  55. Jaymes Says:

    Just got my “L’ecole De Choix” ballon HooRay!!!!:-)

  56. Bleh Says:

    So, per this whole 100 FV for the nursery barn thing… I’m so mad at myself because 2 weeks prior to them doing this I sold my second nursery…. ahhh my timing always seems to be impeccable. As far as the whole crafting thing goes… I also sold that 2 weeks ago, it never did anything for me but cause problems, I went out of sync almost every time I tried to make a good so for my own sake I don’t care what they do… ::shrug::

  57. Patti s Says:

    I never noticed anything said about what you call a “tax”. I just play and buy a few goods from friends who have loads to get rid of. I DONT need fuel. I just honestly don’t pay that much attention to numbers while playing. EXCEPT for breeding… that SUCKS . I take my time to attempt breeding only to LOSE every stinking coin I have “MADE”.. There is NO reason to take what I spend all that time making.. away from us. The only thing I get out of breeding is making my friends happy and for that alone I continue. This WAS to me the coolest game and so much fun. Zynga and their financial problems have taken most all of that away from me now. I wish I knew where you all see this “tax” showing… where you see… that half is going into space or somewhere … who gets the %50.. Me from selling it and the person who buys ? I dont get it……… and HOW do we KNOW that when a person “buys” bushels.. we REALLY get coins from it ? GRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrr TOO technical… to have to check every thing that is done… coins… exp… vrs what it was.. what it is now.. thats is NOT fun !!!!!!!!!!!!! grrr

  58. Georgia Says:

    Zynga must be Democrats.

  59. stephen Says:

    LOL doesn’t surprise me they pull something like this. I understand the gas thing….it was pretty easy to rack up the gas tank im up to 8000 fuel because of the crafting goods. But lowering the amount of coins……don’t really see the point? Most people take the profits they make from crafting goods to re-invest in buying goods to gain more gas. Instead of taxing/stealing most of the profits made from goods if there worried about people getting too many coins, or w/e there reason is they should just lower the costs of the goods. After you level a good past 50 its bout 5,000-6,000 coins…..average players can’t afford that.

  60. suzie Says:

    hiya every 1 , well i cant belive that people are moaning again about zynga!…b4 people wanted 2 buy fuel with coins + not fv cash..now they have bought out the crafting cottages…now every 1 can get fuel with coins (though buying peoples goods)..now every 1s moaning about the tax, well 2 b honest i didnt even no they was a tax 2 start with, so it doesnt bother me,cause as im buying goods 4 fuel, im happy with that,it saves your fv cash or doing your farm by doing each plot!!…zynga no matter what u do, its never good enough with some people

  61. john Says:

    i wrote the first post,and i have to reply to all of you guys.
    I do know,that it was a glitch from the company and not created from the players… BUT :
    at first,zynga was very strict saying that the foals/calfs will be deleted , so will be the building itself. And to “continue at your onw risk” !!!!
    Me,and many million users did not bought a 2nd nursery,because WE KNEW it was against regulations (1 limit)…..
    not only they didnt deleted the foals/calfs, not only they didnt “punish” the players , they rewarded them for breaking the rules.
    We were just playing straight and fair 100%

  62. Melissa Says:

    I agree with many of you who are complaining (and laughing at the comment about how these comments sound like union workers’ complaints).

    I’m going to just say that this game is stupid, all of these “updates” and “improvements” from Zynga are crap, and that the majority of the complainers will still continue their daily regime of farming. It’s sad, I know. I liked Farmville when I could just click on the “x” in the top right corner to avoid posting a feed, I liked Farmville when I could purchase a lot of cool decorations without using FarmCash and I liked the old format of the Crafting Building a lot better than this “improved” format.

    In short, I enjoyed Farmville a lot more 6-12 months ago than currently, and these “improvements” have annoyed me to the point where I’m cutting back drastically my farming time. You know what? Maybe all of these changes will be the final straw for many farmers (like me) and they will stop playing Farmville in a few months!

  63. Anne Says:

    I don’t mind about taxes, but I hate the fact that Zynga appears to be issuing updates all the time which haven’t been tested or debugged! How can they expect people to play this game when there are so many bugs and issues with it? It is my favourite of the FB games but the number of issues, and the unhelpfulness of the Zynga staff when reporting them, is really starting to tick me off! I regularly can’t load the game and am reduced to growing 2-day crops in order to ensure that I will be able to log in and get them. Since the most recent crafting update I haven’t been able to publish any products as this causes it to grey out, and I’ve been avoiding the co-op jobs as I can’t guarantee that I will be able to log in… does this look like a good game at present – no! I’m seriously thinking of taking a break for a while. The only thing holding me back is the good friends that I would let down if I did so. Zynga – please sort these issues out!

  64. Mercedes Says:

    Zynga = 2 steps forward then 3 steps back….WTF?

  65. Sherry Says:

    I am playing more now because I can get fuel easily. I always quit playing when I havve no fuel, until something is added that makes it available again. having to spend tens of thousands to buy goods for fuel is ricidulous.

  66. Pat Says:

    Well it has sure cut down on my buying from my neighbors. I had always been losing money (albeit not real money) as I would buy every other day from each of my neighbors, costing me roughly $125.000 and if lucky in those two days I would earn half that in sales. I certainly don’t need to buy for the fuel as I have over 3500 units, I was buying to HELP the less fortunate. Now I have backtracked to buying every third day and just taking it up the butt even worse than I had been as far as losses go.

    Wish to hell Z would get their poop in a group and think about the new things they bring out before flooding the game with them. If we are earning too much $$$ and fuel maybe they should have done a bit of thinking before they released the cottages and they could have avoided the whole back lash of irate Farmers by structuring the way it is now!

  67. Mal Says:

    Well Zynga did it again. Let us buy nurseries, build them, expand them. stock them and then take them away with all thge animals. Now with the wineries and spas and bakeries, taking HALF when they said it was only 10 %. That”s like the governmenbt. Can’t buy back items from friends. Can’t afford the tax. Just want to shut down and sell the whole thing. It’s really not fun any more. Zynga should get their act together.

  68. SteveX Says:

    This just reaffirms my stand of quitting when I hit level 100. 4 more to go…

  69. Shiloh4310 Says:

    50% tax? Zynga must be run by Obama and Nancy Pelosi!

  70. Brad Says:

    saving your farm……

  71. Brian Says:

    How can all of you make such a big deal about this. They had made it way to easy. I have over 4000 tanks of gas already since this started. My level 80 cakes make about 3+ gallons each. I have over 20 million in coins so who cares when you are buying something for 8000 bucks. If they do not make the change it is like they are just giving gas away for free. It is so easy to get goods too. The game is so easy now it is getting borning and that is probably what they are trying to avoid, People like me almost have no reason to play now.

  72. LeLoyce Says:

    #1 about the 100fv cash for the nurseries….my problem with it is that no one paid cash for their nurseries….they were bought with coins so if Zynga was going to reimbursed you for taking the nursery back it should have been done with coins. If you paid 50,000 in coins you got 50,000 coins returned to you. Plus the other fact that Zynga warned you to removed the nurseries or they were taking them including all animals in them….no one listen so they turn around and reward you with cash. Those who think we are “cry babies” because we didn’t get the glitch I’m sure would be singing a different tune if the shoe was on the other foot. Also at one point Zynga had said that they were going to let everyone have 2 nurseries and it was available for purchase in the market….by the time I made room on my farm they had locked the nurseries and everyone was limited to 1.

    #2 as far as the crafting cottages go….I think it is a rip off…no business would stay in business if half their profit was taken from them. Yes this is only a game I am aware of that but why would I turn around and buy goods from my neighbor for say 3000 coins and they only get 1500 and they in turn buy from me for the same 3000 coins and I only get 1500..I have now lost 1500 coins. If you buy enough goods in one day your coin supply would quickly dwindled. Besides I have many neighbors whose goods cost upward of 3000 coins while most of mind are in the 2000′s. Why would I buy a good from a neighbor for 3000+ coins when the most I will get in return is probably 1300 coins. No thank you….I’ll work on mastering my crops, bake some, post them so my neighbors can get free goods from the wall. I will watch the wall and grab free goods from my neighbors

    Thanks Zynga for not making the game much fun anymore….the only reason I continue playing is because I have many good neighbors (which include my sister & niece) I want to continue playing with….otherwise I would be long gone.

  73. Ross Says:

    My fuel skyrocketed when crafting began. With the new changes I still am increasing my fuel supply just not as fast. I think they figured out they were to generous at the start. I am mainly concerned with leveling up crafts for mastery. Still love the crafting part of the game . To those who are whining about the change you forget we never had this before still a bonus.

  74. Kathleen Says:

    There are a couple of things to keep in mind. First, this is a game, a well liked game, but a game none the less. Second Zynga does this to make a profit. We can continue to farm regardless of whether there is fuel or not – its just slower and less convenient to plow, plant and harvest each plot individually. Having said that, Zynga needs to keep in mind that none of us have to play FV and if they make it too inconvenient, then we’re going to go somewhere else. Given the slowness of the game, the glitches we see because new things are introduced without adequate testing and now making it more difficult to get fuel, Zynga is cutting into its own profits. If we really want to make a difference, we need to send a meaningful message: If everyone stopped playing for just 24 hours, it would let the folks at Zynga know that they need to treat their customers better. Just my opinion…..

  75. Mooshki Says:

    They said they were going to start having goods buy stuff other than fuel, so maybe this is a precursor to that? If we could buy farm cash, it’d totally be worth it!

  76. Leandra Says:

    Can’t believe this. None of my friends are very high up and only a few of them actually do crafting. I’m low on fuel as it is and it never allows me to get any from the newsfeed. Only when I’m down to two or three. That really sucks. Not too worried about the coins but reducing the fuel is just crap. Buying it is way too expensive. Zynga is just trying to screw players over. If you want to give less, fine, but do that immediately, don’t change your mind halfway through!

  77. Thelma J Says:

    Actually, I didn’t realize that Zynga took ANY of our money. I don’t understand how this works, that they make money from FV. The changes they propose, like people said above, are not fair to the players and may have Zynga loosing more players. This, of course, is going to have them loose even MORE money! I HATE the way they have changed the industry process. It was fine before, worked well, and all was good. Then they come along and “improve” and “make better” something that already
    WAS good. Now, of course, when they make any changes (as happens ALL the time)
    it completely screwes things up. I have not been able to use my winery from day 1 when they started this. Problems, problemsl, problems. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”.
    These “taxes” will impact the lower level players more than the upper level, and may make them so disgusted that they just quit.
    If they need to do something different regarding money , why not make the tax 20% and give (say) 10-15% less gas. I know I have been upset for a week over these new cvhanges and DEFINITELY have NOT PLAYED AS MUCH AS I USED TO. They will
    have people so mad and disgusted, that playing FV WILL NOT be enjoyable. I FOR ONE DO NOT WANT THIS INCREASE, UNLESS THEY MODIFY IT.

  78. Lane Says:

    I’m okay with the change since we are all now using a third less fuel than we were using prior to the introduction of the new combine harvester/tractor/seeder!

  79. MK Says:

    personally i think zynga is out of their mind. people say it’s only a game, so keeping this in mind..why is fake play money being taxed? it’s not real currency, so it’s not like zynga is able to pay for their servers and equipment with it. it’s purely to screw over the players who in turn support the sponsored ads that DO cover the cost and profits zynga is after. well thought out Z. piss off the hands that feed you. most people already realize fv is just a game and are already unwilling to shell out real money to purchase coins or fv cash. this isn’t helping the cause. with all the glitches and issues the game has as a result of error in design and coding, it’s already a tough decision whether to waste time on it or not. it’s simply a game. i don’t mind the sponsored ads but you can well bet i’m not spending a dime out of my pocket for a virtual animal or graphic. there are much better things in life to invest in than something pretty to look at. if i wanted a 2d graphic to look at that bad, i’ll draw it myself in photoshop lol. playstation anyone? i hear they know a thing or two about gaming…

  80. Merry Says:

    I to am disappointed in the recent changes that have transpired in the crafting game. I enjoyed it and the points and fuel it produced. Now that we have the new all in one combine it requires more fuel to use it. That is my theory anyway, not proven. Just seems like it would. When you have more fuel you can plant more crops and harvest more effectivly. I agree with one of the other players that because of the crafting and one other game we play the “Collections” we do amass a lot of gas! Thereby affording us plenty of fuel to harvest! That way we don’t have to buy fuel from the market for FV Cash. So yes Zynga is loosing out on revenue from that. I do think it is unfair for them to take it out on the players by this formulation they have come up with. I also feel that when we reach certain goals and levels we should be able to earn more FV Cash. Luch as Levels 1- 10 a reward of 1 FV Cash. 11- 20, 2 FV cash, 21- 30, 3 FV Cash and so on. This would be a fair way of making extra FV Cash. Or with every 10,000 cash we could turn in for FV Cash. That way people that don’t have the money to by FV cash from Zynga would be able to get some of the more prized items in the Market place. I think that would be very fair.

    • A decrease in the return (Coins) of Goods produced.
    • Less profit to be made producing Goods, farmers may stop producing.
    • The amount of Fuel for trading Goods also seems to have decreased.
    • If there are less Goods being produced, there will be less Goods to buy and less visiting the neighbors to buy their goods. Thereby not able to help them advance in their projects.

    It does seem GREED is becoming a MANTRA with FV/Zynga. And it isn’t attractive anymore. The more avid players play the game because it does in actuality provide a sense of accomplishment when they reach a goal. The formulation of a bond between players helping them with their goals. That is what the game is for. Some of us work very hard to acheive them. Why not let us just play the game. Quit hiking the price of playing the game. Make the Market specials more accessable to players by making more items available for Coins instead of FV Cash. Lower the FV Cash items to a more user friendly price. I think you would have more customers buy things if they were more reasonably priced. Quite taking things away from us because you figured out that you aren’t making a profit from fake money. Although there are plenty of us that do put actual money into the game to enhance their farms worth and appearance. That alone should be compensation enough. That too can stop out of revolt. But as mentioned GREED has yet ruled the day with Zynga. And it is a shame.
    Zynga, you need to take a hard look at what you are doing. You are going to bite that hands that feed you. By a mass exodus.

    One of your avid players.

  81. Sabrina Says:

    I paid cash to upgrade my spa all the way… not how am I going to compensated for that, when there was a deception that my FV cash for upgrading, would bring me sufficient coins? It’s a deception. All you people who ase also whining that it’s “Just a game” didn’t pay real money for that spa…so why are you even here with that defense. Bet your complaining in a restaurant for bringing you crappy food that YOU paid $ for!;-)

  82. Bryan Says:

    Stacy, some of these folks, including myself from time to time, have actually bought farm cash to use on this “it’s just a game”. So I understand why they are upset. It’s a lot of work getting your goods up to the higher levels. And now they have decided to decrease how many coins you get for selling them. It’s ridiculous. “It’s just a game” applies to Zynga also. What difference does it make to them if we make more coins on our sales. It isn’t real money, so I don’t understand why they would change it. You are correct when you say “You all sit here and threaten to leave or cut down your play time. I bet not one single person will actually do that” but that doesn’t make a difference. The fact is that many people do like to play these silly games as I do. I play because I am on disability and have plenty of time to do it. But I have spent real money on this game and they are making money off of us and therefore we are their customers and deserve to be treated right. Zynga needs to listen to their customers just like any other business does and do what they should do to make them happy. Just my opinion. have a great day!!

  83. Ash Says:

    I WILL NO LONGER BE WASTING MY TIME ON THEIR STUPID CRAFTING CO-OPS. THEY ARE RUINING THIS GAME AND I AM ABOUT TO GIVE THEM ALL UP IF THEY HAVE THE NAME ZYNGA BEHIND THEM!!!!

  84. Michael Says:

    Margie #38 Here is my free speech: How about taking it down a notch and get a life. One can say your obnoxious and have no business posting.

  85. MK Says:

    to those who pay for fv cash and coins with their credit cards – yes, it IS just a game. please realize this before making payment with real money. consider your purchase. i’m not downing those people who feel it’s worth their money for the amusement factor of the game, but seriously don’t complain. after all, you spent your real currency obtained from a real job to obtain a ‘virtual’ item of some kind. if you’re not willing to accept this fact then i don’t know what to tell people other than it seems to hold true. a fool and their *real* money are soon parted. perhaps next time you’ll spend your money on something tangible instead of a pretty graphic.

  86. Gnome Says:

    I love when someone says “its just a game” yet they themselves are here on the farmvillefreak site. Ironic at best.

    Anyway, this and the stupid change to crafting buildings is about all I can take. It was kinda fun but now its getting sad. I have no way to switch between crafting buildings (I have two) and getting bushels is ridiculous. The old system needed an update but they took it the wrong direction, wasting real estate with stupid information.

  87. JewelTones Says:

    “Did you know that Zynga deletes postings immediately (or people do it for Zynga) in the official Zynga forum who complain too much about Zynga or the moderators? I was shocked because we live in a free country and everybody has got the right to say his/her opinion. I won´t post there any longer.”
    - Jack

    It’s a free country not a free website and the website is owned and paid for by Zynga. I’m sorry but I don’t think anybody should attack a moderator on ANY site. It’s uncalled for. Moderators there aren’t developers. They’re just moderating the threads and with people jumping on them, calling them nazis, swearing at them…. you’re darned right I’d delete those posts. People need to calm the freak down and actually act like adults when communicating with each other. You have the right to your opinion, but this is like saying Coke fans should be able to pop over to Pepsi’s official website, mock the posters there, and pimp Coke all day and night. Guess what? Those posts are gonna go.

    Use some common sense.

    JT

  88. Angela Says:

    I did not build the craft building at all, what I do is grow crops and others come and buy win win situation I just Knew ZYNGA was going to pull a swift one lol.

    So I have free crafts from the feed sure I paid for it, but I lose nothing out, and I have free bushels for my pigs.

  89. Gardengirl Says:

    WTH? These are just pixels and bring nothing to Zynga whatsoever, so why *iss off their customers, especially since WE just gave them under their name $900K for the school in Haiti. I don’t know why this company seems so hateful towards its players and intentionally get them mad. Next time it asks me for something, like real money, which I donated for the school, I am going to say NO!!!!

  90. Gardengirl Says:

    Oh, this must be Obamanomics they are copying. TAX, TAX, TAX!

  91. Noreen Says:

    I am so sick and tired of zygna. I have been arguing with them since the farm expansion. Which I did correctly got text entered codes and the booted me. I have had 2 friends already quit Farmville over the Nursery. I too purchased FV cash and used it to upgrade my craft building, I think that after this weekend I too am done. Enough is enough.

  92. Suzanne Says:

    I never cheated to get 3 nurseries and they took them. I got 100 Farm Cash and am so over the game I am unsure what to spend it on I may pave paradise and put up a parking lot!! Or with the jillion coins buy alot of Villas and move on

  93. John Says:

    The biggest problem with playing this game right now is not fuel or coins, those can both be earned in numerous ways.

    The biggest problem right now is the crazy number of popups one gets while using the combine to harvest, plow and seed. I have about 300 plots on my farm and I get on average about 15 freaking popups each and every time I do the farm.

    And most of these are absolutely inane, totally useless. I mean if all of my stalls have a crop for sale and I am harvesting something else, it will ask me if I want to replace the old crop in the stall with the new one I am harvesting. Fine, but then it does it again, and again, and again. WTF do you think I’m gonna change my mind about that??? Seriously!
    And a pop up because I now have more masteries than Tom, Hairy, or Dick?? Who cares? Did they really need to add that stinking popup on top of all the rest???

    And if you are in a coop job, forget about seeing your progress because its continually being covered by all these popups. Zynga, please, we don’t wanna be bombarded with this crap while we are trying to work our fields. At least save that garbage until we are DONE with it!!

    Rant over.

  94. Jack Says:

    JT: I hope it´s nice for you to work for Zynga. :) The postings I read before they were deleted were completely normal and didn´t contain any insults.
    (We know that Zyngas people read at their forum and react to it – *of course* they read at the #1 Fan Page, but they can´t delete immediately. ;-)

  95. Dale Randant Says:

    Plain greed like evreything else Zynga does, time start looking for some where else to spend my money. Thanks allot.

  96. LeAnne Says:

    I never did participate much beyond 1 Star because the whole process was too confusing and I regretted choosing the Spa…just couldn’t get into it much. I spent all summer growing the same things for my crafts and got nowhere. I recently have gone back to growing for Mastery and sometimes they work on the Spa, too. There wasn’t much incentive for me to trade for fuel because I didn’t need any.

  97. suzanne Says:

    @LANE—-we are not using 1/3 less fuel with the combine. They are charging us 3 fuels(energy) per plot just as if we were harvesting,plowing and seeding it. They even said that in their release. Still using exactly the same amount of fuel…

  98. Brian Says:

    This is ridiculous really. I can honestly say that with my account I am unable to get fuel fast enough. I have a lot of plots to maximize bushels. What I find is that out of ALL my 50+ farmville friends, only about less then 10 play, and out of those about 3 play regularly.

    What this is doing is allowing me to mass produce crafts, but out of the 12+ i create each day. Only about 2 or 3 are purchased.

    On top of that my sister has an account where she just leveled up high enough to create the craft building. Her account has such a low number of coins, she can’t really purchase any of the higher level crafts because she will run out of money.

    I get why they did this surely when ever item is level 100 there is going to be a massive amount of extra coin and fuel that people have laying around. But it seems like instead of a flat out 50% tax, maybe it could be a rolling tax. For instance selling goods level 1-20 would be 10%, goods level 21-40 could be 20% and so on. This way low level characters with minimal coins can still partake in purchasing crafts.

    I do it for the fuel mostly, not the coins…However I refuse to actually pay for fuel (which is far overpriced i might add). Maybe Zynga should work on Micro payments… Instead of an item costing you 50 FV dollars, maybe it should just cost a fraction of the cost.

    I guess I might as well stop complaining, I’ve almost finished programming an application that automatically farms my plots… so soon fuel will be irrelevant to me.

  99. adam Says:

    who cares about fuel, bots harvest and seeds in seconds

  100. Patrice Says:

    Wow, this the same week Zynga’s glitch took 160+ of my fv cash and their insanely stupid techie said she couldn’t fix it ’cause I’d added cash. Well, duh… Sure isn’t fun any more, I look at my farm and feel sad/angry

  101. Angie Says:

    I’m tired of the crafting cottage…and zynga just making it harder to get items…their pricing is crazy for virtual items and all the good stuff cost FVC I have cut my play time and will stop it if this nonsense don’t stop…while we used to relax and have fun playing we now stress over this game….i say boycott zynga that is all they understand stop paying cash and the price will come down….ZYNGA HAS BECOME VERY GREEDY!!!! 5 mil a year is more than enough…..you don’t need more…and new players can’t afford anything anymore. They need to just fix the game before “IMPROVING” it. Just tired of it.

  102. Rose Says:

    Hey #6 (Brian) — I just harvested almost 500 plots of raspberries and got exactly 4 bushels out of it! Maybe that was a fluke, or maybe they ARE cutting back on the number of bushels that we can find.

  103. JewelTones Says:

    RME Jack. Yes. I must work for Zynga because I think rude people are idiots. I see you work for NASA. You know, being a rocket scientist and all. ;) :D

    JT

  104. Mollance Says:

    Regarding the nursery barn glitch.

    There still seems to be a whole lot of people unclear as to what happened, so here’s the details again. Apologies for the lengthy post.

    In the Farmville podcast on 14th June 2010, Lexi was asked a question about how many nursery barns are allowed on a farm. She goes on to explain that this is a GLITCH, not an intended function. This issue will be fixed. For now, users can have two Nursery Barns on their farm. If you have more than two Nursery Barns you are building at your own risk. You can lose any buildings or animals in excess of 2 when the glitch is fixed.
    It was also posted in the forums http://forums.zynga.com/showthread.php?t=600489&highlight=nursery+barn+glitch, as well as on every Farmville fan page. If you were truly interested in the game, you should be paying attention to at least one of these .

    Then in the podcast on 27th September 2010, Lexi says ‘Now before I get into discussing our exciting new releases, I want to quickly go over a change that will be affecting a group of our players. Unfortunately, due to numerous unforeseen technical complications, we have had to remove all excess Nursery Barns from our players. If this change pertains to you, we have placed all of the animals from your second Nursery Barn into your gift box. We have also credited any affected players with 100 Farm Cash to help replace any lost building materials or efforts. Unfortunately, if you were in possession of more than two Nursery Barns, we will not be able to restore any lost animals or building materials from your excess Nurseries, however you will still receive the compensation mentioned above for your second Nursery Barn only. When this glitch originally came to our attention a few months ago, the FarmVille team allowed players to be in possession of two Nurseries, which is why compensation is being granted to affected users. However, it was also stated that if players chose to build more than two Nursery Barns that they were doing so at their own risk, as the fix for this glitch may result in the loss of any Nurseries in excess of two.

    Please know that we had every intention of allowing players to keep two nurseries on their farm as was originally stated, but as I mentioned earlier, technical issues have forced us to revise this decision and revert to this feature back to its intended design. We sincerely apologize for any confusion or frustration this bug may have caused our players and we would like to thank you for your continued patience and understanding. Please know that this was not a decision that was made lightly but was ultimately done to preserve the health and stability of FarmVille. This removal will happen gradually and if you experience any issues, please make sure to contact our Customer Service department. ‘

    So basically, in June, Zynga first said that being allowed to have more than 1 nursery was a glitch, they would allow a second, but any more are built at your own risk.
    Then last week they changed their mind and decided to only allow 1, deleting them from the farm. If you did have 1 deleted, you were compensated with 100FVC and all your animals were returned to your giftbox as previously you were told you would be able to keep it. If you had any more deleted, you were not compensated as it had previously been stated you were building at your own risk and they were at risk of deletion. Nobody got compensated for cheating as you could only receive cash for 1 barn.

    If you want to be aware of the information, you need to read it.

  105. Mollance Says:

    In fact this very site reports it here
    http://farmvillefreak.com/farmville-freaks/farmville-announces-nursery-barn-as-glitch-build-at-your-own-risk

  106. Ebony Campbell Says:

    I think Zynga really needs to take a long hard look at just what they are doing, it is use farmers on Farmville that got them this far, it is us who made it possible for them to donate not once but twice now to Haiti, then they stick it to us by having us donate to the cause. Have they not looked at the big picture let us say we have 50 friends and we buy from each one let us say a 3000 coin item, that is 150000 that we paid out each of us to only get 75000 back how is that fair soon we will not be able to buy because we will have no coins. It costs us 15 to plow then the cost of the seed, and sometimes you do not get back more then 30coins per plot. If they continue to follow this path I think we should start a webpage to make it clear to people just how corrupt they are, it is our time that we invest and with each new thing they do we get glitches next they will say that having more then 1 dairy barn is causing glitches. BS I cry foul on the nursery barn thing if any one was paying attention the problems were there prior to the nursery barns and they just keep adding stuff which just causes more glitches never addressing the old ones enough to fix them. Between myself & my family we have 10 farms in all we all play but I am wondering for just how long we will continue playing. I will go to Country life and play there not as much fun but they are getting better and no BS like on Farmville. What would Zynga do it some how we could get all the people to just stop playing for one week and to never buy anything that cost FV again. I can make my farm have no crops with all the things i have it would not be a farm it would be a village then what just come harvest my trees & animals, no crafting as have no need for gas . Zynga wake up stop screwing the very people who give you credence you are getting a bad rap and no matter how much Humanitarianism you do it will never have people warm up to you stop screwing the people who play your games everyday.

  107. Firesheep67 Says:

    Crafting is not functioning correctly anyway…ever since the “improved interface” I can no longer buy a good from someone and then get bushels. Once I buy a good, the entire interface locks up and I have to refresh the page. I refresh, go back and get bushels, and cannot go on to craft goods because…yes, the interface locks up AGAIN…so I refresh, make a few goods, etc. So, just to MAKE the goods, I have to refresh my farm over and over because I can no longer buy, get bushels and craft in sequence.
    Come on Zynga, a game is supposed to be relaxing, not an ongoing exercise in frustration…I get enough of that during the week at work!

  108. Jack Says:

    JT: He he… yes, I work for NASA, it´s a very interesting job, you know… researching all day long.. ;-)

    OK, OK, if someone was insulted, I would delete it, too. I just didn´t read it – only that the following postings (“Where is the posting?”) and so on were deleted, too. Seemed to be strange. But I don´t read everthing, so I will drop the subject.

  109. Shawna Says:

    I was not a player that took advantage of the ability to have to nurseries, BUT, I do not think that the players who did are cheaters! I also would take offense to being called a cheater by other players when Zynga themselves allowed this to happen.

    From Zynga back in June:

    “Hi Farmers,
    Since the release of Nursery Barns, a glitch has come to our attention that allows users to have more than one Nursery Barn.
    This is not the intended functionality of this feature and the ability to have more than one Nursery is a glitch.
    We are intending on fixing this issue in the future, however we have decided to allow users to have the ability to possess two Nursery Barns on their farm.
    Please know that if you continue to take advantage of this glitch and choose to have more than two Nurseries on your farm, you are building at your own risk, as this issue will be addressed in the future. This fix may result in the loss of any Nursery Barns in excess of two.
    We appreciate your patience and understanding with us during this time. Happy Farming!”

    Key word: ALLOW. Enough said. Nobody should be complaining about this – I think Zynga handled it fairly.

    As for the new developments – I won’t make any judgements until Zynga themselves come out with a statement. Even when they do, I still will keep playing. I have WAY more fuel than I ever had before. Yeah, it will be a bummer, but I’m an optimist and I’m hoping that this is all related to giving us something else besides fuel like we were told.

    For me, it’s just a game…and a free one at that! If there’s ever not enough fuel for my real car, then I’ll have a problem!

  110. Tom Says:

    Hey, remember when you couldn’t produce these goods? You had to earn coins just by planting crops and harvesting animals and trees + fuel didn’t even exist! The producing of goods isen’t essential for the game, and if you don’t like this decision, there are many other games out there…

  111. Karla Says:

    To Maria who did not get her red horse, I did not get the red goat and mine too says it is claimed.

  112. Krystal Says:

    I’m not outraged, in the least. As long as you have enough neighbors, you’ll have more fuel than you’ll ever need. I also have more coins than I will ever need.

  113. Doug Says:

    Who cares about coins?

    I have millions that never use.

    The fuel thing is a drag. I never have enough that.

  114. Linda H. Says:

    @Nesha 1225: I get really tired of all the popups, too. I’m usually on a time limit when I get to the farm, and I waste a lot of time of those popups.
    @Frogger: I contacted Zynga about that very thing, because I wasn’t seeing the coin amount go up either. I was told that all the “action” takes place while we are gone. I started watching the amount of coins just before leaving the game, and checking it when I first opened the game. I found that the difference was the amount shown on the sales report, unless something has changed recently.
    @Kelly: I agree with you about the fuel. I only have time to farm because of the free fuel. If getting fuel becomes a problem again, then I will have to stop playing the game.
    @Margie: Yes!!!
    @Linda Smith: Definitely sounds like a government takeover!
    @Renee: Yes, watch your amount of coins. See my response to Frogger.
    @Gardengirl: Yes!!!

  115. stephen Says:

    AT————
    Mollance Says:
    Posted on October 2nd, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    thanks for posting that info…I had it saved somewhere but lost it…..I usually have to explain this stupid topic to a few people a day cause just like on this post……people like to cry/kick/scream like a 3 year old without actually knowing the facts and what there even talking about. :) lol

  116. Tom Dengler Says:

    I am truly outraged that Zynga decided on it’s own to increase the “tax” on crafting goods. It’s bad enough we farmers have to put up with constant glitches and never ending problems with normal operations on our farms, but now we have to endure taxes? What’s next, locust, dust storms, drought, spills from local power plants, religious or racial extremists over-running our farms?
    It seems odd you are more than willing to ask us for donations (using real dollars) for charitable events (which I’m sure Zynga actually gets to use as a tax deduction in the real world). And then you turn around and charge us in virtual and/or real dollars (many people have spent real hard earned money to start, maintain and expand their crafting empires). I for one will be very reluctant from now on to donate any money to any kind of charity event for Zynga, and I will also be as reluctant (if not more so) to actually spend real money to help in my enjoyment of the game. This year I have spent roughly $600 in FV$ for my wife and I, as well as the 7-11 promotion. If it appears that Zynga wants to blatantly take the money from us in the game play, then I will have no choice but to be much pickier about how I spend it on Zynga.

    TD

  117. JewelTones Says:

    I hear ya, Jack. I used to go to that board. Now I avoid it. I can’t take the atmosphere as a whole. So I limit my interaction there as much as possible to basic suggestions. I much prefer the Freak. :)

    JT
    ~ off to scroll for Mollance’s post to see what the info is… ~

  118. bookworm Says:

    Hay i thought food items like those made in the bakery were tax free.. I know I don’t pay tax on them when i go to the grocery store.. I agree with some.. If we are getting the fuel we need from crafting then why spend real money to get fake fv cash.. hence the company is making less $.. I know it also stinks that many of the farmville animal you can ONLY buy with farmville cash.. Why can’t they just make all animal available for both farmville cash and farmville coins??

  119. Betty West Says:

    They can do whatever they want people will not quit playing. Get use to it! NO I WILL NOT CRAFT.

  120. Jim Says:

    The whole crafting thing has gotten tired. Maybe they decided to take a different approach with something else. I never seem to have enough bushels to craft and create slop for the pig pens. Like others this change might be by design.

    Please get rid of the toy collection and pop ups as it is kinda useless just like the previous precious stone collection now retired..

  121. Mary Says:

    I was really enjoying the new mastery on crafting goods as have completed the crops. I don’t need fuel but was buying over 250G/day on friends goods, just so they could use those coins to buy from me and help me with my mastery goal. However, with the new cost then even if your neighbors always reciprocate it will cost you over 30 billion to master all 15 crafts. Even if you’re willing to pay that for mastery stars then cost of upgrades and new releases has skyrocketed. I can only assume that fv is doing this so people will bankrupt themselves of coins and have to use real cash for upgrades and items.

  122. owe Says:

    Mary is correct, they are doing this to use our precious FV cash so that we will be bankrupted and the goods are so expensive now that my red table wine is level 42 its price is 5000.Now it’s hard for the other farmers to get goods from me and trade it for fuel and it’s hard for me too because I can’t reach my goal of mastering the red table wine anymore.

  123. rose Says:

    i see zinga trying to ge rich fast. this use to be a fun site but i’s more of a pain to me now so a lot of my friends and i are losing interest in the game. soon zynga will crash andburn. i see alot of my neighbors wih withered crops or no crops. a lot of people are just quiting and i think i’m getting close to doing the same thing. i can play other games from other sites and not get charged. like absolute poker and poker stars. i played on those sites for 5 yrs and never had to pay a penny.. makes me sick that i got into this game. it chamged my life for the worse, took up too much of my time, money and all for what, frustration not fun.. sad to say but this company wants to get rich fast, well not from me anymore..

  124. Adam Says:

    THIS IS BULL!!!!

    If Farmville is going to continue doing greedy things such as this crap…I QUIT. I have much more important things to do than to play this stupid game anyway. This is just downright greed. I cannot believe I invested time and money on this stupid game, only to continue being taken advantaged of. I’m putting out all my homes that I purchased, and I WILL NOT PLANT anything anymore until such time ZYNGA changes this. THIS IS JUST PLAIN BULL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  125. Regius Says:

    LOL!!! I hadn’t even noticed I was receiving less coins and less fuel for goods. It’s a shame to “tax” the income at 50% but as others have stated on here, it doesn’t cost anything to make goods anyway so it’s not like anyone is losing coins, just not making as much. As for receiving less fuel, well that actually makes sense. Now that we have the new “combine” tractor/seeder/harvester, we’re using 1/3 less fuel than we used to. Obviously, Zynga have looked at the suddenly inflated Farmville economy and chosen to apply the “brakes” so to speak through this tax. This should be viewed as a positive thing done to prolong the enjoyment of the game by keeping it running at an intended, smoother pace :)

    Having said this, it would have been nice though for Zynga to have informed us of this change, and explained just why they made it rather than just hoping no one noticed… :p

  126. Karen Says:

    Just like the “bug” that took our stallion bonuses away. Everyone screamed long and loud so they “fixed” it by putting back the notification that says you get the coin, and it does add at the time. But leave your farm and come back and the coin is gone. So people are less likely to notice. I have spoken to Zynga who acknowledge that this is happening (they had to I had screen shots and no I wasn’t stable stuffing) but they admit that they are not in a hurry to fix it, if they ever will.

  127. Vezok Says:

    I was getting pretty bored of crafting anyway, but this is just stupid. I’m saving my bushels for extra mastery and XP from now on.

  128. LD Says:

    I stopped playing, i really HATE the new design and i think it’s no fun anymore.

  129. jessica Says:

    well, i had 3 nursery barns because i was able to, not because i was “cheating” lol , and i only got reimbursed for losing one, and i had just finished upgrading them to hold 40 foals each the night before… accepted ALL THOSE SPECIAL DELIVERIES just to have them erased the next day! also, with the crafting cottages, i have emailed zynga twice now that i NEVER get the fuel from cashing in goods, and never get any of the pig slop that i pick up from posts. i was just told….”we are working on it” and got nothing for my time and trouble. also, from bushels, i never get the rewards anyway, they just don’t add in…so what is the point…??

  130. Julie Says:

    didn’t work well for the english empire.. won’t work for zynga either.

  131. Kevin Says:

    So yeah, first time posting here, but I’m sure this is a good spot to start.

    1. I love getting the fuel from goods, saves me FV Cash to spend on those other neat items that they are putting out, in a way I think it kinda benefits the people that couldn’t otherwise afford it as easily.

    I have to say thanks to Zynga for making the fuel less painful just don’t be changing that on us.

    2. Gosh if they are taxing our goods like that I am going to be mad, I have well over 200 goods to sell still in my crafting cottage, on top of that I am still adding 10-20 more a day with total increases of around 10 to my totals. I always take those coins and go reinvest to my neighbors.

    3. I don’t know what else to think other than the fact that the expansion costs for the 4 & 5 stars is in my humble opinion not really appealing, I mean 1 more slot and 3 more recipes, yeah the recipes would be nice, but not worth spending 400,000 and 1,000,000 coins respectively.

  132. Hangman Says:

    I won’t be upset if I retain my positive fuel balance. Coins isn’t that much of a problem,except of course you are planting low level crops and spend many coins on items or so.

  133. nate Says:

    Here is a solution to everyone who complains…..download the snagbar and get the free goods your neighbors post to feed. Your goods will be max’d at 200 in no time.

  134. Halisstra Says:

    For the sake of argument let’s pretend for a second that it is in any way acceptable to put taxes on virtual currency, which it is actually NOT!!!
    Less coins, I could live with. Not gladly, because the last upgrade to my spa cost me big. But doable, I guess, but Zynga shouldn’t come crying to me why I don’t buy from the Specials section anymore. Just can’t afford it.
    Less fuel, that’s going to be a problem. I had inflow and output about balanced, depending on the level of goods I bought, but if I get just half the fuel now, I’ll soon run out. That means I can only buy high level goods which will make it harder for my neighbors to level up low level goods. Really not cool! Please change that back, people of Zynga, aka. State of Delusion, if they still think they can icrease their profits with less players.
    Or is this just a crappy scheme to get us all to switch to Frontierville? NOT going to happen! (Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re NOT out to get you. ;) )

  135. Mizu Kagami Says:

    Since a crafting cottage is almost my sole source of fuel and therefore the amount of it will be decreased drastically – it means that I will play farmville much less frequently.

    I suppose I’m not the only one. So, if Zynga’s purpose was to lose even more players, they succeeded. My congratulations, Zynga.

  136. ashiq Says:

    i have an idea…

    PLAY A NEW GAME!

  137. Patrick Says:

    1. The crafting goods are getting to expensive as you level up. i can afford to visit my neighbors to buy those expensive goods. i feel out of place when i cant visit my FV friends.
    2. Because of the above, i find it difficult to process crafts in my bakery as when they are ready, my FV friends will visit to buy and i cant afford to buy thier expensive goods >6000 coins per good.
    3. everything in Fv and even frontier is getting difficult. i am thinking of resigning from zynga games if we Fv farmers are not given the privillage to decide the cost of our goods.
    someone , please help to inform zynga these.

  138. Duchess Says:

    Why is it that when Farmville gets a good thing going they just have to ruin it? Case and point pregnant pigs. I will not be crafting any longer. Nor truffling they do not give active players truffles only inactive. I am getting totally fed up with farmville.. It used to be great.

  139. mia Says:

    if the make it to even less fuel (and it already is too little) i’ll just delete that stupid winery…

  140. peter Says:

    what makes me laugh is the majority of people whinging over a virtual game with virtual coins lmao….oh no i wont be able to get much fuel now,oh no i wont be able to buy from people,oh no i will quit playing,oh no this isnt fair lol get ovet it….people take this game way too seriously,its not real life people or maybe for some of you it sounds like it is haha….reading some of the comments has just made my day :p

  141. Jay Says:

    Bye Bye Spa. Was deleted this evening along with farmers market stands. 50% sales tax is outragous BS. Have a good night Farmers.

  142. Fear Says:

    Anyone that says this is going to stop farmers from producing goods is full of crap. First of all, the fuel, which we were so starved forever was finally given to us on a golden platter, and ALL of us reaped the benefiets. Every single one of my friends has over 300-600 tanks of fuel just using the crafting system. I am absolutely positive this was not “as intended”.

    The crafting system needed an adjustment, and it got one. Good for them. The only bad thing is the way they implemented it. Taxing, does seem to be a bad way of doing that. A price reduction would have gotten some slack but not as much as taking half the proceeds from the players.

    People won’t make goods forever anyway. The system wasn’t designed for longevity, it was designed for quick profits. When the entire playerbase is doing it, it doesn’t hold interest for long. The only way it will be profitable is if less people do it giving that process some value. When every player in the game can create unlimited fuel for themselves, there is no need for other people, thus there is no need for economy…

    Zygna is learning an important lession… You can give everything to everyone. We all have our own crosses to bear…

  143. farmblo Says:

    i wont buy or produce anymore. i have been trying to have my wwinery running all the tim, but now im going to stop…why should my neighbors burn their money, or why should i plant seeds i mastered half a year ago for nearly no profit?

  144. kieran Says:

    OMG, WAT THE HELL, I GET MY FUEL FROM THE GOODS, AND NOW COZ OF WAT FARMVILLE HAS DONE, I WILL HAVE TO STOP PLANTING, WHICH MEANS THE GAME IS WRECKED, YEA, NICE WORK ZYNGA

  145. Lia Says:

    I didn’t realize so many 12 year olds were playing Farmville. “Fair” is a fairytale word that should be reserved for children. As many others have said, this is a game, and I will add it is a FREE game. Obviously many of you have decided to spend your real world money on it, but that is your CHOICE. I play several Zynga games (glutton for punishment) and have never spent a penny on any of them. Oh, that’s not true – I bought a slurpee in a Farmville cup.

    Zynga is a business. They have a right to make business decisions. I would really like a larger farm, but I understand that thing like that (as well as more fuel for all of us, more bushels, more goods, etc) require more server space. We are all quick to complain when the game stalls, is laggy, when we get out of synch errors or when our gift requests fail, but we all want things that eat up memory. And most of us don’t want to pay. You want to complain about a Zynga game, develop a Mafia Wars addiction.

    I agree that the pop-ups have gotten ridiculous and are interfering with my game enjoyment, and I complain about them constantly to my neighbors but I guarantee I won’t stop playing – and Zynga is counting on this.

    And really, the anti-government stuff just makes you look like a bunch of angry wack jobs.

  146. Mike Wyatt Says:

    The thing that you should be mad at about the nursery barns is that they allowed us to expand them ( with all the begging and clicking) BEFORE they decided to do what they warned us was going to happen. although they said that it was going to happen to the barns in excess of 2.
    We should be allowed 2, 1 for horses and 1 for cows, but no matter as there are only about 6 animals that it produces so 1 non expanded barn is more than enough.

    The coins are not of much use to me as i don’t buy much of the little that is available for coins ( not into decorating). I usually just wait till i have a lot of coins and buy something expensive for the XP’s.

    The problem comes in the trading coins for goods for fuel. Less coins means less goods bought, which means less fuel which leads to less farming, than less coins, less fuel, and so on.

  147. Anony Says:

    seriously, it’s about coins and not FV$, so why bother?

  148. Gemma Says:

    Here’s a question: Whose bright idea was it to require FV cash to continue to grow sweetbeets after the event is done? I got the mastery but I will never again grow sweet beets if I have to pay FV cash to grow them. Some of us cannot afford to keep pouring FV cash into what is now a pointless crop. It serves no purpose (not used for crafting) and I am using the lupine for my cash crops if I want”quick cash”. As for the extortion tax now being levied against anyone with a crafting station, I fail to see how it levels the playing field for “new” players. They are going to suffer along with the more “established” players. Admittedly the first crafting station is free so no one had to pay for that, but there are people out there who like to have more than one ( bakery AND spa, for instance) just for variety. I would also point out (on that note that the promo for the crafting stations showed ALL THREE at the same time it’s clearly possible (but evidently not advisable?) to do so. I’m waiting for Zynga to tell me that I can only have ONE and take away the one I *didn’t* have in the beginning. I stopped working on my spa now that it’s been upgraded to a 5 star one. I’m going to sell out of whatever goods I had in the spa and just work the bakery I recently got. I also have a friend who is working his winery and spa based on bushels he gets from other people. If those people stop growing crops, he’s pretty much out of luck. He buys them from me and another mutual friend right now but he’ll be out of luck soon if either of us stop producing the bushels.

  149. Yaniv Sims Says:

    Cindy – don’t be such a blood hearted please cause it’s not about playing or not playing and it’s not about relaxation – it’s about the altitude zynga treat it’s customers!

  150. Jaana Says:

    Makes no difference to me. I’ve got over 10k of fuel and don’t depend on the coins coming from crafting.
    Everybody knows Zynga is greedy, so why does this surprise anybody? Price of new items has gone up every single month. Before too long we have to start paying to play. I used to be seriously addicted and finally took a break from the game. I haven’t been on my farm much this week… it’s still there :)
    Once you hit level 100, all that is left is collecting junk, redesigning your farm and finish masteries. Crafting has been one of the boring aspects of the game.

  151. Truth Says:

    “…and devote my time to Farm Town, where fuel is always free. ”

    Il ike that, they should make that their slogan

    “Farm Town, where Fuel is always free”

  152. liam *s* whelan Says:

    They took our jobs!

  153. John Says:

    #128…you are lucky you aren’t my neighbor. I delete you Cheaters Unite Snag Bar users…ooh sorry it’s Gamers Cheat Unite or is it Gamers Unite Cheating Snag Bar….same thing in any language!

  154. Kim Says:

    OMG PEOPLE! GET A GRIP AND COME BACK TO REALITY! IT’S A GAME, I think people just like to have something to bitch about!

  155. John Says:

    I saw someone commented that the new Combine uses 1/3 of the fuel….no it does not. It only harvests / plows / plants in 1 click. You are still using the same amount of fuel. The only thing cut by 1/3 is the amount of time it takes to farm.

  156. hmmm Says:

    Here is a solution for you. If you are angry and still playing this game — stop spending your real money on fake things and just play the game.
    I would imagine Zynga now realized we all have 2,000 + fuel points and have come to the conclusion that they can no longer sell Farm Buck fuel. So they are trying to rein it in.
    If you don’t have a buck spent on it, it hurts a lot less when they inevitably screw you over. Upset about the Haiti thing, here is a solution. The next time they propose some fundraiser, don’t participate.
    If you feel so moved, give your money directly to the Red Cross or Unicef or some other worthy charity.

  157. Franklin Says:

    What do you expect? They are making up this sh!t as they go along. Doesn’t surprise me a bit.

  158. Patti Says:

    I don’t really care about the taxes. I’m kind of getting bored with FV, and the crafting. Also, all the popus drive me nuts.

  159. Paula Says:

    Typical ‘BIG BUSINESS’ move. Work more to achieve something just to have it taken from you or make you work harder for less. NOTHING WILL EVERY CHANGE OIR IMPROVE in farmville or reality. As you level up the cost of items are just outrageous! It you are making the coins then you can’t purchase items…..etc. I have already cut back on my playing time and I plan to cut back even more……….eventually faze out all together. Can’t see playing a game that mirrors reality!

  160. Monika Says:

    I don’t know… if you hit the help or “What’s this?” (whatever it is, I can’t remember) button in the crafting building, it quite clearly says you get 90% of the profits so this is outrageous. Get with it Zynga. GR!

  161. FV_Player Says:

    I am so sick of Zynga…they seem to forget that we the players are who made zynga who they are…and no I don’t want to hear from you employees who spies on forums to put people down for speaking out against Zynga. I have cut down the time I spent on this game from 2-3hrs a day to 2-3hrs a week and only use it to harvest my animals…I will be deleting the Crafting Cottage and Pig Sty…If I fill those spots with calves or chickens…my return will be worth it and no work, no collecting bushels etc…I used to buy all the FVC horses to breed for my neighbors but stopped when they changed the stables so that when you click on it, it harvested it…..THIS GAME IS NO LONGER ANY FUN, ZYNGA GODS HAVE GOTTEN SO GREEDY….ALL THEY SEE ARE DOLLAR SIGNS AND I DOUBT IF THEY HAVE MORE THAN 3 MILLION PLAYERS LEFT….HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT ONLY ROUGHLY 2 AND HALF MILLION PLAYERS CLICKED THE LIKE BUTTON FOR THE SCHOOL SUPPLIES….YEAH! OUT OF 80,000,000 THATS A DISMAL % DON’T YOU THINK.
    When I had my chicken coops taken away due to their glitch…what did I get….zilch
    When SOME players were allowed to purchase the BLACK stallion for 40,000 coins or have it grow up into same….what did I get…ZILCH.
    ZYNGA….I HOPE YOU CONTINUE TO LOSE PLAYERS AND THANK GOD THAT MORE AND MORE GAMES ARE BEING MADE THAT IS A HELL OF ALOT BETTER THAN YOURS WITHOUT ALL THE GLITCHES AND BS..

    BTW…I love how they GROUP themselves with the players who are really the ones donating the money to Haiti…if anyone thinks that zynga will actually be donating 200,000 think again, in fact I am sure they will be pocketing more than they donate….like they have all the other times…

  162. John E Says:

    After thinking about it for a while I still think the tax increase was a stupid move and is only going to make the game LESS social. I was buying 30 goods a day and staying about even on my total coin unless I planted a 2 or 4 day crop. I only bought 8 the last couple of days and that was only from those that bought from me. The tax has just knocked the legs off BUYING goods. Crafting goods still gets you 50XP and income from neighbors who visit your stalls to complete their recipes. Since the TAX, I have seen a good increase in the number of neighbors that visit my stalls. I’m sure it is because they are buying LESS but still need to level up those recipes by MAKING goods. I have the maximum 5 stalls and pretty-much keep them ALL stocked unless I growing a “long” crop.

    So. I think everyone should agree to stop buying goods and start posting EVERYTHING they MAKE to the feed. There will be plenty of FREE goods posted to the feed for the lower-level neighbors to trade in for fuel. It hasn’t been a real bust for me since I was only selling 8 to 12 a day. I can craft 12 – 18 a day if I plan it out.

  163. Lauren Says:

    @#152 Bahahahahaha.

    That is all.

  164. suzanne Says:

    WE ARE NOT USING LESS FUEL WITH THE 3 IN 1 COMBO….I do not know where you came up with that. Even ZYNGA WHO NEVER COMMUNICATES WITH US has said that in the podcast. We STILL use 3 ENERGIES per plot, which is what we would have used had we plowed(1energy) seeded (1 energy) and harvested (1 energy)…WOW are you mistaken……IT takes 1/3 of the time now…..

  165. JB Says:

    I REFUSE to buy fuel with real money. Asbsolutely, I refuse! I count on the crafting to keep my fuel supply in check (and sometimes thats not enough). I spend real money on other junk with this game, I’m sorry to say now. Obviously, thats not enough for them. Does Zynga as for any of our input?

  166. Hannah Says:

    Sorry – we do not all have 2,000+ fuel points – the minute I start planting berries for my bakery I end up down to nearly nothing. I don’t buy fuel with real money, & was really happy with the use goods thing until now.

  167. vickie Says:

    to Brian #71. I have just about double the fuel that you have, but think about some of your neighbors. I know people that rely of the crafting for their fuel. Some of the lower level players do not have a ton of coins to toss away. One of the things that bgged me is the goods that people have “banked” for later use are now worth less in fuel that when they bought them. We all know it’s just a game, but so is poker and folks used to get shot for cheating people during a game.

  168. Skye Says:

    You all are pathetic.

    Just another thing to complain about? Get real.

    You all should be luck this is a free game. You don’t need to spend money on this game, but it is YOUR choice.

  169. Fay Says:

    I think its generous that we even get 50% when someone buys our goods. This game bases on team play. So you produce your goods for your friends. And they have the opportunity to change coins for fuel.
    AND IT WORKS! I HAVE FUEL SINCE THEY RELEASED CRAFTING! And this will not change bacause of the taxes.

    And about the Nursery thing: Building the 3th and 4th … Nursery Barn was at own risk. Second was allowed and thats why we got 100 Farmcash when it was removed. Zynga can not backtrack who bought materials for cash. And they HAVE to replace the Farmcash of the people who spent farmcash for it because they finance farmville.
    ITS IMPORTANT TO SATISFY THE FARMCASH PLAYER and all of us (loosy coin players) are lucky ones when we got the cash as well and when not .. DAMN GET OVER IT!!!! By the way it would have been to complex to look up which farmer precisely spend how many farmcash.
    And when you lost animals from you multiple nurseries then think about this: BUILDING AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!! What do you think does this mean exactly?????

    DAMN … Could we please start a new conversation about a funnier topic? Thjis is going on my nerves …

  170. Johan Says:

    omfg who the hell cares? do any of you realise how sad you seem?
    ITS A ****ING GAME

    Maybe you can try focusing on your life instead of protesting for hours over a GAME :/

  171. Klippan Says:

    strange. why would fv be greedy on coins? but whatever, doesn’t really matter to me

  172. Roozbeh Says:

    Taxes are necessary even in a virtual economic. I did expect the tax coming but not in such an idiotic manner,with a sharp jump from 10% to 50%! They should have rather used a dynamic tax based on daily or weekly production and purchase statisitcs. They should also use more tax percentage for more expensive goods to regulate the wealth distribution.

    This kind of movments (10 to 50 % tax) is just rather destructive. Fan’s would give up playing or be disapionted. The phrase “this is just a Game” is rediculouse. When you use time and/or real money for something, you can expect a predictable service.

    I personally made a huge amount of money through my winery (about 11 Million coins or 80% of my revenue. We (some of my friends and I) had decieded from the beginning to concentrate only on one crafting item and plant the same corps to gether, in order to increase the level of crafting items faster. Having the best crafting goods puts your name at the first place on your neighboar list and most ordinary neighboars click on first names for their daily required fuel. I didn’t pay any additional tax for relatively huge money I earned compared to my other friends who had not focused on production like me. For example my girl friend started 2 weeks after me, but never could gain any significant positive revenue because people in her list didn’t buy her low quality goods. As of today she can hardly afford buying her required daily fuel while I have near to 3000 large can’s of fuel.

    This is why the taxes and other economic strategies are required. To regulate the wealth distribution. The end point is ” Zynga” could not act worst here!!

  173. JoeG Says:

    No big deal to me – it’s a game, people; if it was affecting my bank balances I would be a lot more upset. I haven’t noticed anything that upsetting. I plant what I want, Co-Op when I want, keep my fuel stocked up by buying products from friends, keep a good stock of goods available in my bakery, life is good. My two cents…

  174. Aven Says:

    I haven’t been crafting for about 3 weeks – since I realised

    1) The upgrades were expensive & the money was wasted because there were no XP
    (Ditto new combine)
    2) I was not getting enough money / experience / fuel for the crops I had to produce
    3) Even with mastery in most of the crops I was still not getting enough bushels of the right kind
    4) I did not have enough storage space for all the odd bushels I had to keep.
    5) And really the most important, I felt like a hamster on a treadmill, and Zynga was turning the wheel too fast.

    I’m not sure of the purpose of the crafting buildings, either. I wonder if they are there to slow down the whole game, to make levels longer to achieve and basically shift the whole emphasis of the game

  175. russo Says:

    man fuc k you zynga.u fuc ked up the game.fuc k this game now

  176. Amber Nagy Says:

    ZYNGA IS LAUGHING AT YOU ALL RIGHT NOW.

  177. Jayster73 Says:

    Tax, no tax…it really doesn’t matter. Bottom line is Zynga is a greedy organization run by a bunch of ignorant tools and childish admins.

  178. Jadea Says:

    We got coins??
    That’s news to me!!

    It always showed coins when my goods were sold, but I never saw those coins actually making it into the coins field, I heard others had noticed the same thing so thought it was the same for everyone…

    …if I HAD been getting coins I’d have made a fortune by now (going by what % we were supposed to be getting), so I guess this doesn’t effect me, I was crafting to get the big buildings and half-heartedly going for crafting masties.

    I got no coins out of it – when did they fix this?

  179. Kevin Says:

    Stop all your bitching, you get stuff to make your product for free. It just a way to get gas, if you take this game to serious then you really need to get a life.

    I have almost 700 cans now it a joke, the game is about having fun

  180. horsebreeder Says:

    did you notice, there was also a change in the way the horse stables work. if you want to harvest it, your seeder horse has to be 50% ready, before it was 33% …now you can not produce foals so often.

  181. Kevin Says:

    Hint

    before crafting was even there you had to help neighbors out or get them from eggs. Even with 50 tax you still making money and still earning fuel got over it people.

    If you don’t want to give them taxes go back to the old way of getting fuel and clicking a few hundred times, Level 85 player

    There are bugs in any game, no game is perfect. IT A GAME you have control over this quit or stop bitching about a game it free to play unless you want to buy something.

    It all about your choices. homer SAYS “duh”

  182. FV_Player Says:

    GO WORK FOR A DECENT COMPANY KEVIN#173.. WE DON’T NEED ZYNGA’S BS…IF THE GAME WAS ABOUT HAVING FUN AND FREE…WHY ISN’T EVERYTHING COINS AND WHY DOES ZYNGA NEED A CUT FROM EVERYTHING…THEY HAVE MONEY TO PAY JACKASSES LIKE YOU TO SPY ON FORUMS AND HARRASS PEOPLE VOICING LEGIT COMPLAINTS…I HAVE SPENT A LOT OF FVC ON THIS GAME AND I HAVE BOUGHT THE RIGHT TO VOICE MY OPINION…YOU DON’T LIKE IT, GO EAT SOME BS…ZYNGA IS FULL OF IT.

  183. FV_Player Says:

    RESPONDING TO YOUR #175 POST: ITS NOT ABOUT FUEL YOU JACKASS, I AM A LEVEL 95 PLAYER, I HAVE OVER 5000 UNITS OF FUEL, HAD OVER 2500 BEFORE THE CRAFTING COTTAGES….ITS ABOUT THE PRINCIPAL OF THE GAME. WHAT ABOUT THE PLAYERS WHO ARE AT THE 30′S AND 40′S LEVEL, HOW WILL THEY BE ABLE TO BUY GOODS FROM THEIR NEIGHBORS IF THEY DON’T GET THE COINS IN RETURN, I SPEND ABOUT 200,000 ON GOODS EVERYDAY AND GET BACK ABOUT 100,000 FROM THE FEW FRIENDS THAT BUY, ITS BAD ENOUGH THAT YOU DON’T GET TO KEEP YOUR OWN FOALS OR CALVES, YET HAVE TO SPEND REAL CASH FOR THEM.
    THIS IS THE ONLY REASON ZYNGA IS DOING THIS:

    TO KEEP PLAYERS PLAYING LONGER AND MORE BUYING OF FARMVILLE CASH….WELL THEY KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH IT ALL.

  184. Anonymous Says:

    You guys really don’t get it do you.. LOL can’t you see that it’s just like all the popups and for those that can’t get tractors to plant, seed & harvest. Does anyone get where I am going here?? This is just another way for them to get you to spend even more time working this POS game. Zynga does not care about YOU.. Zynga cares about how much money it can make and it makes money by YOU constantly working that farm, and even the Saving your Farm do not close your browser BS is them screwing with you. They know that FB and themselves have told their Advertisers that the ads they show will be displayed for a certain amount of time, so they have to keep you on for that time, and oh what fun we can have with the Saving your Farm BS.. They know that eventually you are going to refresh the fricken farm & oh look fellas more money they just threw into the bank on YOUR stupidity, so go ahead and keep saying it’s a Game.. You’re Right and you all are just another piece in the “Game” LOL

  185. HOUSTON Says:

    i dont really care that they raised the % of profit…however only a half profit is kinda outrageous! sell for 2200 and i only get 1100…whats the point in Zynga taking half the profit? its fake money its not like they can use it…we cant make coins if we wanna sell goods and buy them to trade in for fuel….its gonna end up with people only selling and less buying….way to go zynga i guess no one in your staff is aware that if u dont spend the market doesnt make money and thus we all die

  186. Sue Says:

    Why do people say stuff like “get over it people”…it’s just nasty.

    About the tax…I’ll be buying less from neighbors.

  187. vickie Says:

    our cottages still say that we get 90% i read it here, and then went to see if it was still listed as 90% profit and it is.

  188. Karen Says:

    LOL…what a bunch of idiots. To those likening the increased Zynga “tax” to the federal government, go back to school and take a civics class. Learn something about our tax structures and how they work.

    We DON’T have a national sales tax. Duh! So your analogy sucks.

    If you have a problem with how much sales tax you pay in real life, talk to your state and local governments. Though I seriously doubt any of them tax at the rate of 50%. 10% is much closer to reality.

    And the current Democrat controlled Congress hasn’t raised income taxes. AT ALL! They’ve only cut taxes, via the stimulus bills. Way to be misinformed and moronic, complaining about something that hasn’t happened.

    The Zynga 50% “tax” is ridiculous. It doesn’t cost me anything to make the goods, though, so the only way I lose money is to buy any goods, at all. I’m going to stop buying for a while. I can level up my goods must by making them, so whether people buy from me, I don’t care.

    When the crafting activity comes to a screeching halt, maybe Zynga will wise up.

  189. Mary Says:

    I don’t believe most unconcerned posters are realizing what this change means. The crafting mastery became part of the game just like crop masteries are. But these are tough masteries: To buy just ONE recipe of your neighbor to level 100 (5-star) is $15,000,000. The number of bottles you would have to do is 3700 for just ONE recipe; (assuming you could produce 18 recipes/day) then it will take 60% of a year to craft ONE recipe to level 100. For the current 15 recipes that’s $225 Million or 9 years; obviously we need to buy each other’s goods if we are interested in trying to get these masteries.

    I like many who are long-term players I have millions but that will quickly disappear. For people that are simply interested in getting their crafting mastery they are spending $200,000/day (50 bottles) on neighbors in the hopes that they will reciprocate back. Is your farm generating a profit after seeding of 100G/day? If not you’re headed to bankruptcy, even if your neighbors pay you back 100%. And you still have to cover any new expansions or new items that you want.
    Btw: it’s will still be 2 ¼ years of brewing 18 recipes (50 bottles) and neighbors buying 50 bottles each day to get all 15 recipes (55 days per recipe). IMO this is still unreasonable, fv simply needs to reduce these craft masteries to a week or so like they are for crop masteries but instead they’re using this mastery to strip ALL coins out of the system requiring everyone to buy fv$.

    You of course can always choose not to try for these masteries but for me they are the only part of the game I haven’t finished.

  190. Slayer Says:

    so freaking ridiculous, how can i buy from other people if im gettin half the money?? you lose too much !! i would only buy for fuel like this, they´re right on the fact that we´re getting too much fuel though, i have 200+ tanks and i don´t use that much but why affecting the coins?? i understand if it were farm cash but why do you care about the fake money?? it´s just a way to annoy players.. doing this we lose money, and we can´t save enough to buy all the crap they release every week, (which half can only be bought with farm cash) and whats with all the pop ups??, this will affect us all, the market stalls were a way for me to get experience, now less people will buy, no coins, no mastery, thank you Farmville again, oh wait BETA Farmville, which will remain forever.

  191. Aven Says:

    I don’t care about profit or whatever. I’m on level 94 and I care about time, farmcoin and XP and for me the crafting cottages are bad news because they don’t give up any of these. They also lock people into a certain style of gameplay, whereas one of the best things about FV was its flexibility and the way u could play it according to ur lifestyle.

    I have to say this to people hanging on to fuel
    IF U STOCKPILE FUEL WHICH U HAVE PAID FOR, THEN THAT COIN IS WASTED
    You have had… NO…. XP for shelling out a LOT of coin, and u are not earning any by farming. Not advanced a level recently? Not acquired many masteries? Crafting is the reason.

  192. Mary Says:

    Correction: it’s 1/2 the area under the square or 1850 bottles per recipe, cost same, 27 days. Should still be 1/4 th. that.

  193. JStande Says:

    My number #1 reason for not making goods in my crafting building is because it has not worked since the changes were made. Every time I get bushels, make a product, or purchase a product my game freezes and I have to refresh the page. It’s ridiculous to have to refresh each time I perform an action. I’ve had several neighbors stop making goods, and 3 have totally quit FV because of the hassles, problems, and changes. I, for one, am about to follow suit! Since I started FV in March 2010 I have had 20+ neighbors quit the game. Wow, Zynga, that’s gotta tell ‘ya something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  194. Joanne Schafer Says:

    I’m with JStand. My winery, too is not working, and I am ticked off. Why don’t you people leave well enough alone? I just got it figured out, and now it freezes after every action I perform. I love my farm, but am seriously thinking of quitting the whole thing. It is very frustrating. Put it back the way it was. Every second day it is another thing that is not working.
    Yours truly,
    soon to be gone!

  195. Jay Says:

    If you need more Fuel turn in Collections. Why pay for it when you can get it free??? For every collection you turn in, you get 5 Unites of Fuel, 5,000 Coins, and 250XP. Sounds like a much better deal to me than paying for Fuel. Having a hard time getting collections? Get more friends. Also to get more fuel start Hatching Eggs. You also get Free XP from Most Eggs, along with 10 units, 20 units of Fuel. Sounds better than paying for it.
    50% Tax is BS, My Spa was deleted along with the Farmers Market Stalls.

  196. Aven Says:

    I agree with Jav. The only good fuel is free fuel, but the options for this are decreasing. Have u noticed the Limited Time collections give u a useless bunch of pixels instead of fuel? I still have my market & bakery, but I refuse to upgrade or grow anything specifically for the stalls, also the problems JStande mentions mean I can’t share (free) fuel with my neighbours.

  197. Alfandi Says:

    But Where and When the fuel workshop ??????
    and the Indonesian event and its flag….????
    Thanks….
    but 1 question the crafting cottages is expensixe 80 fv cash
    and Islamic event…please…….
    don’t made different is a wars…peace is forever beauty

  198. JEANNE Says:

    I for one cannot see the point in crafting all those goods to exchange for what? Fuel? It’s pretty stupid really. I would like to see something tangible for all that effort. Coins, XP, opportunity’s to trade for special animals or decorations…anything but fuel. It’s so ridiculous that I’m not going to do it anymore. I’ll let my winery sit idle.

    I’ve pretty much lost interest in the game because of this issue, plus the insane contents of the mystery boxes and eggs. It was also a dumb move on their part to “fix” the game where players were no longer able to take those mystery boxes and eggs out of the gift box and save them up to open all at once. I liked doing that.

    I would have also like to see them come up with a few dozen NEW trees to offer in the Market or a NEW animal. Redesign the dairy (UGLY) Redesign the Chicken Coop (DOUBLE UGLY) and just improve what they had instead of force feeding players all this EXPENSIVE CRAP.

    BITCH LIST continued:

    The changes to fertilizing and feeding chickens-LAME idea.
    The TUSCAN WEDDING-Words cannot even describe how insane this vile piece of trash made me. DELETED.
    The PIG PEN-Stupid waste of time.CRAP
    The TRAIN-What a major disappointment that was.

    Price of special items-robbery.
    Reintroduction of past special items-again robbery.
    Introduction of new items-which most are essentially the same thing as the last new items, and are therefore not really new-REALLY robbery.

    I feel somewhat better now.

    I think it’s time to think about walking away from the farm.

  199. Aven Says:

    Jeanne :) I so agree with much of ur bitch list! I didn’t do the Tuscan Wedding thing either, and I’m giving the pigpen another 2 weeks before I trash it and just stand my pigs in rows to get more cash. The truffle thing has been pointless – they either go to neighbours who no longer play, and if not, I seldom get any in return. The last lot of white truffles gave me ONE large can of fuel. Hardly in keeping with something which is more expensive ounce for ounce than gold!

  200. Ronnie Weasley Says:

    I haven’t cared for where FV has been going for most of the summer: higher prices (coins & bucks); pig pens; and don’t really care for crafting. I craft to help cut down on posts which feels like 10 trillion posts when a neighbor visit my farm. Seems if they can buy from me, they visit. One visit and there’s a minimum of 3 posts to collect from. It’s a real pain going back and forth between FB and FV to collect.

    I’m not leveling up as fast as I use to because I just don’t care for the game anymore. I’ll probably end up not playing anymore which is a shame, because I really liked it until now.

  201. Roozbeh Says:

    I still believe the first idea was brillant. Zynga just spoiled it. All they needed, was some regulation strategies. It doesn’t make sense that for example I make 400,000 coins revenue per day while my friend cannot even afford her own fuel. There is a vicious cycle here. As said, statistically neighboars buy more expensive goods. It is easier and fasater for them. If you buy one or two crafting items with levels above +100, depending on how many plots you want to plant, you will most likely get your required daily fuel.

    Some regulation tactics in my opinion could be:Using no tax for items below level 10, Slightly better fuel/coin ratio for lower level items, higher taxes for people with very high revenue, etc…

    For those who thinking I like taxes, I must say that I don’t! There MUST be some regulator otherwise the game becomes boring. I have thousands of fuels now and will never be worry about obtaining fuel in the next 5 years. Completing a collection, winning 20 C of fuels by opening a mastery egg, etc, none will happy me anymore. Getting enough fuels has been an exciting challenge in FV and the goal of crafting buldings has been to make it more interesting. It actually has spoiled the game for some people.

  202. Southern Says:

    I don’t understand all the complaining, really.

    I wouldn’t care if Zynga took *100%* of all the coins used to “Buy Goods” – at LEAST it allows us to purchase “Fuel” with “Coins”, which is something that MOST people on this forum (and Zyngas) have been asking for, for MONTHS!

    If you don’t want the ability to purchase fuel with coins, then please, by all means, stop crafting. I won’t. None of my neighbors are. We all understang that we’d MUCH rather buy Fuel with Coins then with FV$, so even if we don’t get back ANY money from crafting we’ll still be ahead of the game.

    If you want to go back to buying Fuel with FV$ (or just doing without fuel completely), that’s up to you; as for me (and my neighbors), we’ll keep on crafting and buying that fuel as long as Zynga will let us. :-)

  203. John Says:

    #173-174 Learn to speak and form sentences. You just sound stupid and uneducated.

  204. Trillion Says:

    How are you people getting so much fuel? I have 50 neighbors, but barely 80 fuel from crafting. Guess my neighbors (and I) don’t craft enough or something ;P

  205. Roozbeh Says:

    An item with a level higher than 100 gives you more than 3 large can’s of fuel. You can make up to 6*4=24 items per day ( 6 barrels , 4 times a day), which makes +75 fuels per day. This is the mixmum theoretical amount of fuel you can produce daily without using cashes. In 40 days you would have around 3000 fuels. I have not considered the prducts you can buy from your neighboars.

  206. Southern Says:

    Trillion (#192 or thereabouts) – Once you’re neighbors (and yourself) start crafting items around the level 30 point, that’s the equivalent of a “large can of fuel” – They give you the best bang for your buck, so always buy the highest level craftable item from your neighbors that you can.

    Also, keep an eye on the news feed – most people post free samples of their craftables a few times a day, it’s usually pretty easy to stock up on 10-20 free cans of fuel this way.

    Of course, you may have 50 neighbors, but they may not be active, or into crafting; if you’re not getting 200+ farmville related posts per day on your newsfeed, you might want to consider getting a few more (or more active) neighbors. :-)

  207. peggy wright Says:

    I am stopping my bakery, others that i know are too

  208. hmmm Says:

    To Trillion: I had about 700 fuel built up from collections, free fuel weeks and Farmville Bonus checker before the crafting cottages started. I have a base of about 150 neighbors, of which about 100 are really active. Then again I’ve been at this for more than a year.

    To Mary: I think you might be right that this is a strategy to drain coins out of the game. I have reached $8 million before I started buying belted cows and quail now I’m closer to $2 million. My dad who rarely buys anything has about $20 million coin.

    I plan to try for one star in each recipe, but I am thinking about quitting the game at Level 100 (I said the same thing when the cap was level 70), setting up a nonproducing farm and bidding goodbye to Zynga. Maybe even get some of my life back.

  209. suzanne Says:

    YOu do know that you are getting 50 XP each time you make a product? I keep reading that we don’t get XP from the crafting buildings but we do..

  210. nina gentile Says:

    Yes i will stop crafting if so …and for the stables I had 5 stable for foals and calves and one i’m left with 1 stable ..really pissed cause i spent a lot of time building them and i only got 100 fv’s for the 4 or 5 stables taken away from me… and if farmville takes 50% well then i will not play that game and play the other games ….What a shame zenga allways seems to disappoint their players …keep it up and you will loose a lot of your fansssssssssss!!!!!!

  211. tatiana Says:

    The people said all that i think about Zynga and all confusion in the farmville!
    I think you have not good workers and you produce mess between the players! We get bored !!!!
    I remember the beginning of the game! It was perfect and i have many good friends from this game.Now i am sorry, but it is not pleasure, it is troubles!!!

  212. Cindy Huxley Says:

    Michael how exactly did the ability to buy an extra nursery barn allow ‘brass to sponge more money out of customers.’? The barn was bought for 5000 coins. No Farm Cash and so no real money involved.

    As to your comment ‘ that idiot Mark Pincus’ that just sounds like sour grapes. He found a way to make a profitable business out of peoples’ desire to play games and some people’s willingness to spend money on those games. Its called capitalism.

    Having extra barns was not cheating since they could be bought – and only one extra has been compensated for. Too many people complaining for the sake of it here.

    Stacy you have no idea about unions – do not mistake the foolishness here with the real issues of people who have fought hard battles for the rights of workers – rights we all benefit from today whatever our job.

    I have used the various machines to sow harvest etc since they were available and have never had to buy fuel with real cash to do so. What I now get from buying crafting goods is extra and really unnecessary – I buy the goods to help my neighbours level up their goods and gain the XP.

    Sabrina – paying cash for upgrading the crafting buildings was an option not a requirement – you chose to do that. I upgraded mine without spending any FV cash and it only took about a week to get to level 5.
    Bryan – I do spend real money on this game, because it suits me to do so sometimes. I still say that it is only a game and one that can be played without ever spending a penny of real cash.

    Brian and Adam – this thread began with complaints about people who had legitimately bought an extra building being accused of cheating. I am sure you are aware that using bots or apps to automatically sow and harvest is cheating and is an infringement of not only Zynga rules but Facebook rules. You may lose your farms.

    Mollance – Very well put.

    As to the change in Crafting design – initially I did not like it, but now realise that it is a great improvement and makes it very much easier to get bushels for the various goods.

    I assume that all the people having problems with the buildings etc have done the basic housekeeping – clear browser AND flash cache – ensure that flash is fully up to date and that your computer is running at maximum efficiency. I clear my browser and flash cache daily and I assure you it makes a difference.

    And once more to the complaining fraternity – this is a game, you only spend real money if you choose, you can play without ever doing that. So how about just playing and enjoying or alternatively not playing and then you won’t have to complain.

  213. Betty McCale Says:

    I have read most of these posts and must say that I have problems with the price drop for crafts from a different perspective. I am disappointed that I cannot buy from as many neighbors. I was buying several hundred thousand coins worth per day, almost entirely from players on levels below mine. It was especially pleasant to be able to buy from many beginners who had no hope of returning the favor.

    This comes at almost the same time as the closing down of the revenue from the breeding of horses, something I very much enjoyed in this game. It was a delightful way to share a little something special from the horses I had purchased. It gave you a reason to buy more. I miss that sharing and the extra revenue it engendered. It was the one major way that FarmVille differed from FarmTown and a deciding factor in my playing this game. It may be the deciding factor when I move on.

    Both of those will have a trickle down effect that perhaps Zynga did not intend. I can no longer give, through the buying of their crafts, to many players and that lessens my pleasure in the game.

    It is very hard to play a game where the rules are always changing and the things you like about the game disappearing! Cute little critters are not enough….

    We will have to wait and see what they have in mind and its effects. I did not think I would like the combine, and I like it very much, so will give them the benefit of the doubt for now.

    Of a much bigger disturbance to me is all the pop ups when you are trying to work on your crops. Would it be possible to have a brief pop up to tell you what you have found and then a list of items to deal with AFTER you finish your crop work? Perhaps they do not realize that each of those means the closing of full screen, if you are using it, and if you are not, it still moves you from the place where you are working. Being forced to choose share has not made things better. I always go to the next screen and choose skip instead of publish, because it is so maddening. I will use links and give those things as gifts later, NOT then. Perhaps Zynga ought to give up a little control and make the links available from them, since using those gift links is obviously what players prefer.

    Thank you, Zynga for trying to improve the game! The combine works great!

    One more thing. I would much rather be able to see and enjoy the fine cows and horses I have purchased and be able to put them in and out for breeding than to have them locked away in a barn to get an occasional foal or calf. What fun is it if you cannot even see them or show them to others? That is a pleasure that has been taken from us with your current system, esp. with the cows.

  214. Joe P Says:

    Just like in Government… MORE TAXES = LESS PRODUCTIVITY

  215. Carol Says:

    I would first like to say that this is only a game. Its supposed to be fun..not annoying. If it annoys anyone, they should just stop playing this game and go play another. I personally love the game and will play with my neighbors (friends). As far as the coins, don’t use the crafting anymore. I don’t even harvest the pigs, found it to be boring. I just enjoy decorating my farm and killing some of my free time. Honestly, a few other things could be annoying like all the baby foals growing up to be black horses….black stallion foal, pinto foal and etc…I think they should be what they are as a foal. I guess suggestions could be made considering I have needed Zyngas help before and they have always been very reasonable with helping me out. Anyway, we all have enough stress in our lives, the last thing we need is for a game to do the same. If its that bad….stop playing…simple solution. Not worth getting annoyed over. Have a good day all!

  216. NULL and VOID Says:

    Because of crafting I now have 2,000 fuel no joke. This is still retarded. If anything they should of gone the other direction and done something to encourage the commerce between players. The players being able to make coins off of one another was a great system and it shouldn’t of been turned into this. What possible reason could zynga of had for this change anyway? Were some people just far too successful at their craft thus making plenty of coins to spend in the game to further their own enjoyment? This is all ridiculous! Once again they’ve managed to make hundreds of thousands of people feel stupid for playing their game.

  217. HOF Says:

    I read each comment and started replacing common wordage with the following substitutions:
    Zynga = current politicians
    Farmville = USA
    farmers = USA legal citizens
    coins = paychecks
    FV$ = retirement plan/savings
    play or crafting = my job
    cheaters = ungrateful welfare recipients
    (NOTE: there are those on welfare that need my help and I greatly gift to them)
    It’s just a game but unfortunately my paycheck is hurting in the real USA. HOLD ONTO YOUR WALLETS farmers
    LOL

  218. mary Says:

    its not fair that only some players got 100 farm cash for extra nurserys and others didnt..it does not make sense!

  219. Miss Conservative Says:

    #217, HOF – my kind of guy/gal : )

  220. John E Says:

    Have you seen Zynga’s answer to the Crafting Cottage problems?

    [Shakes Head] They are telling users to REFRESH after doing an action in the Cottage. This doesn’t solve ANYTHING since the main screen will lock up EVERY time if the game is refreshed. If ANYONE is even remotely familiar on how to use a web browser WITH THE KEYBOARD and NOT the mouse, the locked-up/grayed-out main crafting UI can be brought back to life with a few taps of the TAB key and ENTER. I’m doing it this way now when I need to craft goods and buy goods ( and also share them ALL ) but the Get Bushel part of it is still broken. Better to use the Market Stall anyway for that.

    I even created a post on the Zynga Forums using screen shots on how to do it and they simply won’t listen. I no longer have access to the forums though, so they might have removed that thread along with my account.

  221. Ican Says:

    As soon as I get my PS3 fixed it’s back to Call of Duty for me. I’m not addicted to this game but I did rather enjoy it between the problems and OOS’s. The amount of required clicking has taken alot of the fun out of playing, the crafting requires more time than it is worth and now this? I was a regular Farm Cash buyer but that has come to an end. Probably drop my crafting building as well. Not only is the game screwed up most of the time, so are the people who run it.

  222. Tom M Says:

    Outraged!!! Ya think? I know a lot of my neighbors will simply quit playing Farmville because of this. Guess what? Me too. Why mess up a good game?

  223. Odin Says:

    Freedom of speech? BAH!!! You can have freedom of speech anywhere. Of course, there are places where there is no guarantee of freedom after speech.

  224. joseph Says:

    Its a BETA enough said

  225. Vanessa Says:

    What really bugs about Zynga is they won’t let the rare baby animals, ie foals and calves, grow up into their adult counterpart because they said it’s not fair for those players who spent farmcash to buy them for other players to get them for free, well, what about what Zynga did with only having items available for those that have the iPhone. HOW IS THAT FAIR!!!! It’s not. That’s what really bugs me. Not to mention the whole tax thing. If there is no coins for us to buy things then they will have no players. I spend money on the FarmCash because that’s very hard to come by. I refuse to spend it on the coins too.

  226. Debi Says:

    If I can’t get coins for my crafting goods, I won’t have coins for decoration. No coins for decoration means no interest in buying FV$ associated items since I can’t make a complete decorative change. For those of us with few farming plots, crafting was the ONLY way to get enough money to be able to buy decorations.

    Personally I am spending less time in FV and more time in FarmTown where things are more fun.

    I used to earn almost $100k daily in my spa. I am lucky now to get $30k. With the tax there was a change in the display of goods and people couldn’t find you, nor did they pay attention to what they were buying.

    I think Zynga made a huge mistake on this one.

    I will NOT spend real money on coins….and I have spent plenty of money on FY$

  227. John Says:

    Come on stop crying!!!!!! There was a time before crafting….where you had to buy your fuel and planting crops was your only source of income!!!! The crafting building is extra coinage and extra fuel for you!!!!!!

  228. Brian Says:

    Cindy Huxley #212

    I’m happy that you found it important to address certain people individually. As one of those looks directed at me I might as well point out that I don’t view what I am doing as cheating.

    I am using the knowledge I have to play the game different then other people… Does it give me any particular advantage over someone else. It does not. I’m not manipulating the game in any way whatsoever. My farming doesn’t happen any faster then anyone elses does. I just don’t have to click nearly as many times.

    Further more the way I play the game will not be traceable as I am not using systems to actually speed up the farming process as some people do.

    I have not downloaded a bot or any program to manipulate the game. What I am doing is no different then someone using a mouse with a turbo button. I’m not sure if you have heard of this, but there is a mouse that has a button that will automatically left click for you. Is this also breaking the rules?

    Where does one draw the line?

    And for that matter, Why should someone who is capable of clicking their mouse 20 times a second be able to, if most of the rest of us can only click 10 times a second. Where do you draw the line? Farmville has a system in place that requires their progress bar to go from 0 to 100% every single time you click on a plot. If I am not speeding up this process.. I am not cheating. I am simply playing the game to the best of my capabilities.

    Thats just my 2 cents.

  229. John Says:

    “stop crying”

    I can imagine Zynga saying that as they keep increasing market prices and lowering players’ profits. Those tools defending Zynga can feel free to give their money to Zynga and stop their useless comments.

  230. Regius Says:

    Re 155 and 164. My mistake. You are right, we don’t use 1/3 less fuel as I thought with the combine. I wasn’t aware it separated the fuel usage for each task, so I was still only reading -16 fuel when using it. Thanks for setting me straight :)

  231. Roozbeh Says:

    Hurraaa, They reduced the tax to 20% :D , I just earned 8750 coins for a 10900 coins item.

  232. powzie Says:

    I should just save this , message as I seem to use it constantly —

    The real problem is that Zynga NEVER TELLS US what they are doing to us.

    I am increasingly unable to care about a game run by people who revel in showing us that they are both sneaky and cheap. (And I don’t understand WHY they feel the need to be so parsimonious – it’s just pixels for god’s sake!!)

  233. Scooby12466 Says:

    What i want to know is how much pot Zynga employees are smoking over there in San Francisco?

  234. Grier Says:

    There is also a problem receiving fuel when you get it. For instance when you plow a field and you see the fuel can, you can share it, but you don’t get any added to your tank. I started to check my levels and plow by hand, and found I never got the fuel added. I’ve tried this on my 2 daughter’s farms and my husband’s, the same thing. They can share, but don’t get the fuel added.
    When I visit other’s farms, I always check also. Many times I’m not getting the fuel I’m supposed to, plus if I do, it’s only enough for 60 plots.
    For smaller farms this is ok, but it’s not for larger farms and it seems to be they are stealing the fuel we do earn, by not giving it. It’s a false sense of getting it when the fuel can pops up. Out of 50 neighbors visited and fertilized I’m lucky to get 4/5ths of a tank of gas.

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